senftube.6081 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Speed Relics looooolllll imagine full Cele with Speed Relict. ArenaNet C'MON. xD Is this a joke 2 5 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 What does the speed relic do? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senftube.6081 Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Perm + 66% speed 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, senftube.6081 said: Perm + 66% speed That was already in the game and trust me it's not even that broken. 17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluberblasen.9684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, senftube.6081 said: Speed Relics looooolllll imagine full Cele with Speed Relict. ArenaNet C'MON. xD Is this a joke thats what iam running since 1 hour 😄 nerf incoming .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaif.3518 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 rune of speed used to be swiftness was +66% instead of +33% in-combat. Is it now +66% all the time? the "problem" with the old rune of speed was that it buffed vitality, which wasn't a big deal damage-wise. If you can combine it now with, say, eagle (+power, +ferocity), that'll be impressive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluberblasen.9684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, jaif.3518 said: rune of speed used to be swiftness was +66% instead of +33% in-combat. Is it now +66% all the time? the "problem" with the old rune of speed was that it buffed vitality, which wasn't a big deal damage-wise. If you can combine it now with, say, eagle (+power, +ferocity), that'll be impressive. you can run anti toxin runes + 66 % combat speed now 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, bluberblasen.9684 said: you can run anti toxin runes + 66 % combat speed now Yeah, but the main reason you'd take anti-toxin runes was for the cleanse, not the stats. 13 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluberblasen.9684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, SleepyBat.9034 said: Yeah, but the main reason you'd take anti-toxin runes was for the cleanse, not the stats. true.. but i wanted say that you can now run your favorite runes + 66 % combat speed. the anti toxin was only for example 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jormin.2761 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 its only with swiftness still 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Keep in mind that the relics are incredibly diffuse in their functionality - most doesnt even say how much of the boons you get (while others arbitrarily do). Its probably identical. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Relic of the Cavalier - Grant yourself aegis, quickness, swiftness, resistance, and might when striking an enemy with your mount's engage skill. lol overloaded with boons. Relic of the Nightmare - After using an elite skill, send forth a nightmare pulse that inflicts fear and poison on nearby enemies. 79 gold on the tp lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Relics will probably be unbalanced at the launch and until the second update. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Based on the list on the wiki, core relics seem to be the same or weaker than old runes (with many of the stronger ones removed/nerfed). The op stuff will be locked behind the expansion for sure. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, XenesisII.1540 said: Relic of the Cavalier - Grant yourself aegis, quickness, swiftness, resistance, and might when striking an enemy with your mount's engage skill. lol overloaded with boons. Relic of the Nightmare - After using an elite skill, send forth a nightmare pulse that inflicts fear and poison on nearby enemies. 79 gold on the tp lol. The durations of those boons is like 3 seconds, it's basically worthless. And that's with 56% boon duration. Edited August 22, 2023 by SleepyBat.9034 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, SleepyBat.9034 said: The durations of those boons is like 3 seconds, it's basically worthless. And that's with 56% boon duration. They were worthless in the first place triggered on a mount engage skill, just funny they load it up with 5 boons. PSA, all 40 core relics can be crafted, don't get scammed on the tp! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, XenesisII.1540 said: Relic of the Cavalier - Grant yourself aegis, quickness, swiftness, resistance, and might when striking an enemy with your mount's engage skill. lol overloaded with boons. Relic of the Nightmare - After using an elite skill, send forth a nightmare pulse that inflicts fear and poison on nearby enemies. 79 gold on the tp lol. Oh btw everyone's builds are broken and apparently the free relics are trash and don't let you select. And the API is down so you can't even tell if you're getting a fair deal. Can't say it was intentional, but honestly I would advise people to wait for prices to settle. People will always price gouge on the first week. Or maybe do some of it yourself. Probably do something else for a bit... This expansion is so trash I can't even avoid it by not buying it. edit: You can pick relics, however, some of them are changed, so read carefully before you select. Also you may right click/preview to see what you're opening. I have no idea why they made it so convoluted. Edited August 22, 2023 by ArchonWing.9480 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Edit: relic list was fully updated on wiki https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Relic Relic of Cerus - Upon using an elite skill, summon an Eye of Cerus that emits a rotating line attack, dealing damage and converting boons into conditions. (Cooldown: 30 Seconds.) Nerfs sigil of Absorption, nerfs various boon strips and boon corrupts.............. adds boon corruption relic exclusive to expansion. 😏 Edited August 23, 2023 by XenesisII.1540 10 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArchonWing.9480 said: I like how someone is in there trying to make the argument that nerfing the runes was a way to bring down power creep, yet there's more 10% strike relics available, and you also get a 6th stat bonus. Three clueless wvw players? --> Edited August 22, 2023 by XenesisII.1540 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazieL.5684 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 relics are pretty trash imho... some huge nerfs especially to antitoxin when harbingers and renegades still exist good luck surviving that nonsense now... the new relics are boring and/or trash... can you add more "on elite use" please? my 2 minute cd elite skill really needs the 3stacks of poison to become viable... 16 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, XenesisII.1540 said: I like how someone is in there trying to make the argument that nerfing the runes was a way to bring down power creep, yet there's more 10% strike relics available, and you also get a 6th stat bonus. I mean I would have to grab some huge canisters of copium if I pre-ordered myself, too. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Disappointing that there is no might and fury on (core) relics. If it were an attempt to reduce boon spam, it would be a good change, but they added defensive boons. The offensive relics seem to be aimed at pve mostly and rather underwhelming in PvP/WvW. Maybe some of the condi procs are good, but still ... Idk why they keep pushing a boring bunker meta. Edited August 22, 2023 by Zyreva.1078 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zyreva.1078 said: Disappointing that there is no might and fury on (core) relics. If it were an attempt to reduce boon spam, it would be a good change, but they added defensive boons. The offensive relics seem to be aimed at pve mostly and rather underwhelming in PvP/WvW. Maybe some of the condi procs are good, but still ... Idk why they keep pushing a boring bunker meta. The defensive boons have garbo durations tho 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SleepyBat.9034 said: The defensive boons have garbo durations tho Idk. 5s base duration of resistance is pretty strong (used to be 4). So are 5s of vigor on evade with 1s cd. Perma uptime basically with a bunch of evades and/or boon duration. Defensive boons can be very impactful, even with short duration (dura rune only had 3s base duration of prot and regen and 1s of resistance, on 20s cd, yet was one of the strongest runes for the entire time of it's existence). And do we even know all the details about the other's yet? Edited August 22, 2023 by Zyreva.1078 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, ArchonWing.9480 said: I mean I would have to grab some huge canisters of copium if I pre-ordered myself, too. i got a fancy hat for preordering 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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