Kindly Reconsider WvW Potions

[Alsandar.7420]

Not a lot of people play or try WvW. It was neat incentive to start - or keep grinding WvW with your guild. Thanks so much!

[TheGrimm.5624]

Just now, Alsandar.7420 said:

Not a lot of people play or try WvW. It was neat incentive to start - or keep grinding WvW with your guild. Thanks so much!

Agree, not sure the intent of the WvW potion removal, but they were wroth going for, for a number of reasons. Their removal just feels like more of a loss in WvW rewards that was already a game mode that was lacking when compared to other game options.

[LRDJDGMNT.2374]

and while they are at it bring back the PvP potions and at a minimum 2 gold for completing the daily instead of only 1 gold. Dropping from 2 gold to one gold is absolute horse kitten

[Alsandar.7420]

Honestly, if they effected gem sales in any way, I can appreciate that. I want Anet to make money.

If they could be altered in that case, as opposed to removing them, would be much appreciated!

[WRay.2391]

I wonder if they compensated with progress gained each tick, or plain nerf regarding potions? Anybody noticed difference?

[vares.8457]

Just now, WRay.2391 said:

I wonder if they compensated with progress gained each tick, or plain nerf regarding potions? Anybody noticed difference?

You get more progress for some ticks.  

[LRDJDGMNT.2374]

same progress per tick in WvW. and in PvP you now get 500 reward track points per level up... but you dont gain any more rank points per win / loss.

[vares.8457]

31 minutes ago, LRDJDGMNT.2374 said:

same progress per tick in WvW.

That is not true, some ticks, the ones when you get a chest, now give more progress. 

Edited August 23, 2023 by vares.8457

[LRDJDGMNT.2374]

my 7 hours in WVW yesterday say otherwise. I'm getting the same progress I was. 195 points per tick with no boosters

[Zebulon.1850]

The updated instant reward track vials now give 250 each, what the potions used to give.

This change dramatically increases the amount of reward track you get if you are high rank at diamond. I get 1,750 every 20 minutes on average from this. That's 4 ticks. 437 on average. Way more than the 195 you can get plus additional bonuses like 50% from boosters.

 

So yeah, it is bad if all you do is login, do dailies and log out. Otherwise, the new buffs are amazing.

 

So actually you can now do a reward track in like 125 minutes if you are max rank. That's way down from when it used to take like 6 hours.

Edited August 23, 2023 by Zebulon.1850
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[Alsandar.7420]

3 minutes ago, Zebulon.1850 said:

The updated instant reward track vials now give 250 each, what the potions used to give.

This change dramatically increases the amount of reward track you get if you are high rank at diamond. I get 1,750 every 20 minutes on average from this. That's 4 ticks. 437 on average. Way more than the 195 you can get plus additional bonuses like 50% from boosters.

 

So yeah, it is bad if all you do is login, do dailies and log out. Otherwise, the new buffs are amazing.

 

So actually you can now do a reward track in like 125 minutes if you are max rank. That's way down from when it used to take like 6 hours.

Thank you for sharing this!! That’s encouraging. So major WvW players actually like this better?

[LRDJDGMNT.2374]

while you are not wrong the conversation was about the amount of points per tick at no point did it include the reward from chests. where it still takes some people an hour to get through wood. So yet again a lost benefit for new players but a massive gain for older players. and that's where the problem is.

[Zebulon.1850]

Just now, Alsandar.7420 said:

Thank you for sharing this!! That’s encouraging. So major WvW players actually like this better?

I would say yes. Obviously the vial buff works regardless of how many pips you get per tick.

Removing potions is bad for people who only get dailes, and then also so you can't save them up for future reward tracks. I wish Anet would actually explain changes. If they don't want people to save them up, just have them auto consume when you get them. Certainly, 1000 from dailies wasn't that much.

[Zebulon.1850]

3 minutes ago, LRDJDGMNT.2374 said:

while you are not wrong the conversation was about the amount of points per tick at no point did it include the reward from chests. where it still takes some people an hour to get through wood. So yet again a lost benefit for new players but a massive gain for older players. and that's where the problem is.

Those instant reward track potions gave 25 points previously. Regardless of how many pips you get, that is a 10x increase every time you get one.

Honestly, they might nerf them. I didn't even realize how little they gave before vs now.

Edited August 23, 2023 by Zebulon.1850
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[LRDJDGMNT.2374]

and it still takes newer players an hour to complete wood. and most don't come back because of kitten like this. person A completes all the chests in 3 hours on resett Person B doesnt even complete wood. at least with pots of wvw rewards for doing dailies, they could still make comparable progress on reward tracks compared to the diamond shitter. and now while it takes one of us about 2 hours per reward track it will still take the new player 4-6 hours. people don't participate in modes where they don't feel like the reward compensates their time. This is a prime example of that, where anet takes the comparable progress away from a newer person and gives it to a "vet".

Edited August 23, 2023 by LRDJDGMNT.2374

[TheGrimm.5624]

14 minutes ago, Alsandar.7420 said:

Thank you for sharing this!! That’s encouraging. So major WvW players actually like this better?

No, I wouldn't say that. Depends on how you used the potions. WvW players don't really pay attention to the tracks, they just occur while you play. But it does impact players that might stack them for limited time tracks or for particular goals or to do a quick refill of materials when needed.

[Arianth Moonlight.6453]

ah, so that's why I'm getting so many chests out of the blue! I was really busy with the expansion and stuff, so I just played a little WvW but still finished like 2 reward tracks.