[Feedback] Legendary Obsidian Armor

[Sobx.1758]

29 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

I'm very much looking forward to Update 1 of SotO and am not stressing myself with Rift Hunts until then. There is absolutely no reason to grind this monotonous activity to an extent where you would burn out. If the Updates don't provide a more fun activity to gather Essences, I am uncertain I will continue to pursue the acquistion of the heavy set just for the skin.

Without change, weeklies still are a thing. It's so weird that some people apparently only see "not going for it at all" and "burn myself out by grinding it non-stop" options. Not that this is the first time I see this approach on this forum.

[Ashantara.8731]

14 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

Without change, weeklies still are a thing. It's so weird that some people apparently only see "not going for it at all" and "burn myself out by grinding it non-stop" options. Not that this is the first time I see this approach on this forum.

Assumptions, misinterpretations -- also an approach I see very often on this forum. 😉

I said I was not going to stress myself out about it (unlike some people who have already finished the Essence grind, can you imagine? 😄), not that I was going to stay 100% clear of the content altogether. And yes, I presume that grinding Rifts like crazy will inevitably result in a "burnout"-like state, resulting in the person starting to absolutely hate the content.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Ashantara.8731

[Sobx.1758]

48 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

Assumptions, misinterpretations -- also an approach I see very often on this forum. 😉

I said I was not going to stress myself out about it (unlike some people who have already finished the Essence grind, can you imagine? 😄), not that I was going to stay 100% clear of the content altogether. And yes, I presume that grinding Rifts like crazy will inevitably result in a "burnout"-like state, resulting in the person starting to absolutely hate the content.

Not sure I misinterpreted anything considering you ended your post with:

1 hour ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

If the Updates don't provide a more fun activity to gather Essences, I am uncertain I will continue to pursue the acquistion of the heavy set just for the skin.

Maybe these words mean something else than what I think they do, but as far as I understand "pursuing it" doesn't mean "hyperfocusing on it" (or in this context grinding it out), it simply means "going for it at all" -even morso when you used "continue to pursue the acquisition of the heavy set" while already informing us you're not actively grinding it out. So with that in mind, your posts was understood by me exactly as "no new option = won't go for it at all". 

Might have been a misunderstanding or misuse of a phrase by either of us though, although I still don't see much room for assumptions or misinterpretations in my post, if that's what you were suggesting. 😉 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Mysty Meadows.1425]

Verbal PVP at it's finest. You know the game has issues when the forums are busier than the game lol

[IAmNotMatthew.1058]

26 minutes ago, Evon Skyfyre.9673 said:

Verbal PVP at it's finest. You know the game has issues when the forums are busier than the game lol

Well the forums are surely busier than your home instance.

[Daniyyel.3428]

I think I'm  an average player as far as skill and gold ect.  The only thing I may have is a little more time than the average player.  Finished crafting the 18 gifts of expertise last week.  If I can do it, anyone can. Maybe some people should  spend less time on the forum complaining and play the game.   They made farming essence so easy you can binge watch tv while farming.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Daniyyel.3428

[Ashantara.8731]

2 minutes ago, Daniyyel.3428 said:

People complaining about farming so many rifts or burning out or w/e.  imo they just want stuff handed to them.   Maybe spend less time on the forum complaining and play the game.

I am fully legendary, I didn't have anything handed to me. 🤦‍♀️

Still, Rift Hunting is a truly boring activity, but apparently some minds can compensate boredom better than others. 😉

Also, the main point of criticism on my end is that GW2 has such rich PvE/OW contents, yet they decided to reduce it to a single task, which is majorly disappointing.

[Sobx.1758]

2 hours ago, Evon Skyfyre.9673 said:

when the forums are busier than the game lol

So it's a good sign that it obviously isn't, was that the point you were trying to make here?

[Daniyyel.3428]

35 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

I am fully legendary, I didn't have anything handed to me. 🤦‍♀️

Still, Rift Hunting is a truly boring activity, but apparently some minds can compensate boredom better than others. 😉

Also, the main point of criticism on my end is that GW2 has such rich PvE/OW contents, yet they decided to reduce it to a single task, which is majorly disappointing.

Same here, it's not about getting leg armor, its about accomplishing a goal.  Also having full leg armor, all 3 sets from raiding.  It reaches a point where it's repetitive as well.  Sure they are different and different types of repeating the same thing over and over.   Raid armor was a grind to.  I didn't say I was talking directly to you, stopped reading after so many complaints and just posted my opinion.  Took me longer to get raid armor than it will to get pve armor.   It's simple, if a person doesn't want to do it,  dont do it.   If I can farm enough essence in less than 6 weeks for all 3 sets, then everyone in the game has plenty of time to get what they need.

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Daniyyel.3428

[Manasa Devi.7958]

2 minutes ago, Daniyyel.3428 said:

Same here, it's not about getting leg armor, its about accomplishing a goal.  Also having full leg armor, all 3 sets from raiding.  It reaches a point where it's repetitive as well.  Sure they are different and different types of repeating the same thing over and over.   Raid armor was a grind to.  I didn't say I was talking directly to you, in fact I didn't even get to your post, stopped reading after so many complaints and just posted my opinion.  Took me longer to get raid armor than it will to get pve armor.  I didn't complain about that either.  Said the same thing to people who complained about raid armor. 

More importantly than accomplishing a goal, it's about having fun. We're talking about a game here. Rifts stopped being fun for me before I even had my first amalgamated essence. Luckily the concept art for the legendary skins doesn't look at all appealing to me, and I have full WvW legendary sets already, so I can just skip this and don't feel I'm missing out on anything. It just leaves this expansion with very little to do for me. I hope there's some substance to the following quarterly releases.

[Daniyyel.3428]

I had fun doing it,  watched all 3 seasons of,  A Discovery of Witches.  Love the series. 

 

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Daniyyel.3428

[Sobx.1758]

3 minutes ago, Manasa Devi.7958 said:

More importantly than accomplishing a goal, it's about having fun.

So if you conclude you won't have fun doing something for a reward you don't need then... just don't. I don't see the problem here. Someone will always not like something, w/e.

27 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

I am fully legendary, I didn't have anything handed to me. 🤦‍♀️

Still, Rift Hunting is a truly boring activity, but apparently some minds can compensate boredom better than others. 😉

Also, the main point of criticism on my end is that GW2 has such rich PvE/OW contents, yet they decided to reduce it to a single task, which is majorly disappointing.

Then don't do it. Or just stick to weeklies and you won't really burn yourself out because they don't take long at all.
(and hopefully the explanation I gave you above made it clear that nothing in my initial response to you was assuming or misinterpreting anything 😉 ) 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Manasa Devi.7958]

2 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

So if you conclude you won't have fun doing something for a reward you don't need then... just don't. I don't see the problem here. Someone will always not like something, w/e.

Which is exactly what the part of my post that you didn't quote stated, so a bit of pointless advice there.

[Sobx.1758]

2 minutes ago, Manasa Devi.7958 said:

Which is exactly what the part of my post that you didn't quote stated, so a bit of pointless advice there.

So if that much is clear then how is this still worth repeatedly complaining about?

Edited October 3, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Manasa Devi.7958]

6 minutes ago, Daniyyel.3428 said:

I had fun doing it,  watched all 3 seasons of,  A Discovery of Witches.  Love the series. 

 

 

If it was fun, you wouldn't have to watch anything else while playing it. If a game ever makes me feel like watching streaming television, I'll find another game.

[Witch of Doom.5739]

Can I do the Rift Hunting?  Of course.  But does anyone find it engrossing content after the first few?  They are SO dull, nothing but the same thing over and over and over.  No variation.  "Grind" doesn't even come close to how boring it is.

I love the varied collections and tasks in SotO, wish there were new or altered ones that would award the Essences we need.  I certainly don't mind putting in the time -- that's why I've played GW since beta of the first game -- but don't want to be bored out of my gourd while I'm doing it.

[Daniyyel.3428]

2 minutes ago, Manasa Devi.7958 said:

If it was fun, you wouldn't have to watch anything else while playing it. If a game ever makes me feel like watching streaming television, I'll find another game.

believe it or not,  not everyone has a one track mind,  Some people can multitask. oh and enjoy both things at once, 

[Manasa Devi.7958]

2 minutes ago, Daniyyel.3428 said:

believe it or not,  not everyone has a one track mind,  Some people can multitask. oh and enjoy both things at once, 

Oh, I believe that. I could do that too. I just don't consider half of those activities fun and worth even a fraction of my attention.

[Daniyyel.3428]

1 minute ago, Manasa Devi.7958 said:

Oh, I believe that. I could do that too. I just don't consider half of those activities fun and worth even a fraction of my attention.

I get that,  I understand not everyone enjoys playing the way I do nor do I enjoy some of the things in game they do.  To each their own.

[Manasa Devi.7958]

1 minute ago, Daniyyel.3428 said:

I get that,  I understand not everyone enjoys playing the way I do nor do I enjoy some of the things in game they do.  To each their own.

I've actually done quite a bit of a similar thing to get my WvW armors, to get to the final diamond chest when the week was close to its end and there was nothing going on in WvW. The difference being that I don't find WvW boring in and of itself, and the outcome was worth it for me. The rifts, unfortunately, are neither.

[Daniyyel.3428]

5 minutes ago, Manasa Devi.7958 said:

I've actually done quite a bit of a similar thing to get my WvW armors, to get to the final diamond chest when the week was close to its end and there was nothing going on in WvW. The difference being that I don't find WvW boring in and of itself, and the outcome was worth it for me. The rifts, unfortunately, are neither.

I was in a wvw  guild before they started giving us levels.  Stopped wvw around that time,  I felt after some time,  it was the most boring thing one could do in the game.  Lots of friends completely disagree with me.  After finishing raid armors I considered doing wvw again for that armor.  after looking what all I would need I was like, yup that's not for me.  I felt the grind would have been more than I was willing to commit to.  Grats on your armor btw you did more than I could have.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Daniyyel.3428

[Solvar.7953]

I think one criticism is a lot of people would be happy to spend a lot of time playing to get that legendary item if that time spent playing was fun, which typically means varied tasks and not doing the same thing 100 times.

OW PvE legendary armor is one of those things I'm interested in.  But I've not bought SotO yet because that content isn't released yet, so I'll see what form it really takes before making that decision (next release could add a bunch of new ways to get the various things needed, or it could be pure grind).

Of course, no one needs legendary anything, but it is a nice end game goal to have, as the game lacks much else.  But there are so many good computer games out there right now that I'm going to spend my free time playing something I enjoy, and not something I have to work at.  Which is my choice, but if lots of other people feel the same way, that also means less money for Anet.  As such, I think it is reasonable for people to give their feedback on stuff like this.  I'm sure most business (be it games, restaurants, retail stores, etc) would prefer feedback on why a customer stopped going to some place instead of silently disappearing so they can try and make changes to keep those customers.

 

[Crazy.2618]

I just want to say that i am extremely  disappointed in how easy it was or is to get the PVE obsidian Legendary Armor compared to the other sets. It took me 2 years in WVW playing daily working to get the full weekly amount of  Skirmish tickets that are time gate/ max per week... Why did they make is so easy to get this pve armor. I have played the game since start and nothing is given for free... is this game starting to die off? I just don't get why it was so easy to get the PVE compared to WVW, PVP or Raid set? Regardless, welcome to the club Pve'ers enjoy it opens up the game to try so many more builds.

 

[Zera.9435]

1 hour ago, Crazy.2618 said:

I just want to say that i am extremely  disappointed in how easy it was or is to get the PVE obsidian Legendary Armor compared to the other sets. It took me 2 years in WVW playing daily working to get the full weekly amount of  Skirmish tickets that are time gate/ max per week... Why did they make is so easy to get this pve armor. I have played the game since start and nothing is given for free... is this game starting to die off? I just don't get why it was so easy to get the PVE compared to WVW, PVP or Raid set? Regardless, welcome to the club Pve'ers enjoy it opens up the game to try so many more builds.

 

It's not meant to be difficult, per se. It's only meant to be a goal that takes a large chunk of time and resources to accomplish to ease accessibility of legendary armor to casuals. It's mean to be something that people work on over time for many months. I don't understand how it took you 2 years when I saw other people brag on the forums about how they can get full sets of WvW legendary armor in a matter of weeks. I don't know what the kitten they're doing differently from you, but you should have a talk with them. You did the WvW way because that is the content you enjoy doing. I refused to make the WvW armor because I don't enjoy that content. I managed to make 3 obby sets but that's only because I spent months farming essences every day, doing map completions and lantern runs, opening hundreds of great arcane chests, doing 3 different map metas enough times and earning enough map currency to get to 90 of those map rewards, and forked over almost 11,000 ectos. That's eleven thousand if you can't math. It's certainly not 'easy' nor cheap. It takes a lot of work. It just might not be as time gated.

[Izzy.2951]

2 hours ago, Crazy.2618 said:

I just want to say that i am extremely  disappointed in how easy it was or is to get the PVE obsidian Legendary Armor compared to the other sets. It took me 2 years in WVW playing daily working to get the full weekly amount of  Skirmish tickets that are time gate/ max per week... Why did they make is so easy to get this pve armor. I have played the game since start and nothing is given for free... is this game starting to die off? I just don't get why it was so easy to get the PVE compared to WVW, PVP or Raid set? Regardless, welcome to the club Pve'ers enjoy it opens up the game to try so many more builds.

 

Raid set is even easier to obtain than obsidian armor, and cheaper. At least for the 1st set. Idk what you talking about. And yeah the game is going downhill but thats other topic.