Mystic Clover

[RDBuck.6098]

Tired of the Damm grind to get these Damm things Tired of the WvW grind to get them and on a reward track you get 7 mystic clover if you are lucky and Mystic Forge is crap too 30% chance of getting 10 of them so when most weapons I mean legendary weapons cost 77 mystic clover each and for each legendary armor you have to have 15 Mystic clovers so why in the world can't a net allow us to craft them it would save a lot of BS and a whole lot of time and playing the game I am so tired of the grind to just get one freaking piece of legendary equipment I don't think it'll be a big problem to craft them that way you get 100% of what you're getting and it makes more sense and for some of you that already thinks it's okay to wait it is then good for you I'm not going to sit and play at a game 5 hours at a time to get maybe four mystic clovers and I'm not going to spend my hard-earned farming gold to spend and have 30% chance of getting mystic clovers at mystic forge. And some may argue that's going to ruin the market in the game I think it's going to help everybody who's going to make the game more enjoyable at least you're working towards something just sitting there doing grind after grind after grind after grind.

[Bewt.9258]

1 minute ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

 I'm not going to-

Than don't. Legendary is not required to do any content. It's a long term goal that you want not need. So put in the legendary effort or don't.

[RDBuck.6098]

That is they're ridiculous comment most everybody wants to have legendary armor legendary weapons I'm just simply saying just make it to where you craft it make it to where it's enjoyable for the games there's grinding it out

[Cyninja.2954]

13 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Tired of the Damm grind to get these Damm things Tired of the WvW grind to get them and on a reward track you get 7 mystic clover if you are lucky

Clovers from rewards tracks have nothing to do with luck. Non repeatable rewards tracks usually offer 7 or more, repeatable reward tracks reward 2.

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and Mystic Forge is crap too 30% chance of getting 10 of them so when most weapons I mean legendary weapons cost 77 mystic clover each and for each legendary armor you have to have 15 Mystic clovers so why in the world can't a net allow us to craft them it would save a lot of BS

If you are unhappy with the 10 clover recipe, use the single one. There are multiple ways to acquire Clovers in a non rng way:

- as mentioned reward tracks

- from astral acclaim

- from magnetite shards from raids

- from fractal relics

- from Lyhr in the Wizards Tower

the full set of vendors can be found here: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_Clover

There is no need to use the Mystic Forge recipe if one does not want to be exposed to rng. If 77 clovers for a weapon are to much, consider crafting EoD legendary weapons, those only require 38 clovers.

Edited October 3 by Cyninja.2954

[Sobx.1758]

24 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Tired of the Damm grind to get these Damm things Tired of the WvW grind to get them and on a reward track you get 7 mystic clover if you are lucky and Mystic Forge is crap too 30% chance of getting 10 of them so when most weapons I mean legendary weapons cost 77 mystic clover each and for each legendary armor you have to have 15 Mystic clovers so why in the world can't a net allow us to craft them it would save a lot of BS and a whole lot of time and playing the game I am so tired of the grind to just get one freaking piece of legendary equipment I don't think it'll be a big problem to craft them that way you get 100% of what you're getting and it makes more sense and for some of you that already thinks it's okay to wait it is then good for you I'm not going to sit and play at a game 5 hours at a time to get maybe four mystic clovers and I'm not going to spend my hard-earned farming gold to spend and have 30% chance of getting mystic clovers at mystic forge. And some may argue that's going to ruin the market in the game I think it's going to help everybody who's going to make the game more enjoyable at least you're working towards something just sitting there doing grind after grind after grind after grind.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_Clover#Sold_by 
You don't need to forge clovers, you can get them weekly from various vendors.

Edited October 3 by Sobx.1758

[Doggie.3184]

Sounds like a skill issue. Or you just lack insanity.  

With bad luck, no lottery drops, no assistance (I did win a random trivia for a stack of Mystic Coins once though), no alt accounts, no RL dollars spent I've crafted-1by1/earned/purchased-from-vendor a total of 1411 Mystic Clovers for crafting weapons since EoD release and am generally poor all the time as I bounce back and forth. If you don't enjoy deep resonating insanity just farm gold in a way you deem fun and buy one of my/or some other insane person's leggy weapons from the TP. 👀

Edited October 4 by Doggie.3184

[RDBuck.6098]

It not a SKILL ISSUE it just I tired of the grinding and spending gold I learn and get kitten screw it I am done explaining good to those player have so much time on there hands 

Edited October 3 by RDBuck.6098

[Doggie.3184]

13 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It not a SKILL ISSUE it just I tired of the grinding and spending gold I learn and get kitten screw it I am done explaining good to those player have so much time on there hands 

You should take that anguish and anger and use it in WvW (with WXP guild buff and Enrichment on) to slaughter your enemies for free clovers if you don't wanna craft them and do fractal dailies. 

Majority of the time though your clover fails will give you items you'll need anyways for Mystic/Draconic/whatever Tribute.

Or just do Hardstuck boss meta trains every day, other daily farm stuff, or whatever else fun and buy the weapon from TP as previously mentioned. 😊Crafting isn't for everyone. Too bad about armor/trinkets though but WvW and weekly vendors should still handle that by the time you finish the collections. I believe SOTO vendor gives unlimited ones too now doesnt it? Havent used it yet.

Edited October 3 by Doggie.3184

[illuminati.8453]

Clovers aren't something you should try to rush.  As you wait for the 77, you build supplies for the next legendary you are going to build.  I usually have 2 or 3 legendaries in progress at any one time.  

For what it is worth, they have made clovers much easier to get than they used to be.

[RDBuck.6098]

It took me 2 years to get my first legendary weapon just tired of the grind and getting nothing for it other than more crafting stuff where they are almost max out to 1000 in my storage

[TheNecrosanct.4028]

44 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It took me 2 years to get my first legendary weapon just tired of the grind and getting nothing for it other than more crafting stuff where they are almost max out to 1000 in my storage

2 years? How? If you really wanted mystic clovers that badly, why didn't you pick the legendary chest from the old daily system, the day 28 chest? That one gave 7 mystic clovers. You'd have your legendary in 1 year, not 2. And you wouldn't even have had to grind for anything, but only log on to the game. The Drizzlewood Coast reward tracks (the PvE reward tracks, not WvW) also give 2 mystic clovers. I assume you don't do Raids or Fractals, because that would be 10 mystic clovers per week for both and you'd have been able to make a legendary weapon in a month. Strike Mission currency can get you 5 per week. Miyani/the Mystic Forge attendant sell 10 per week. Now we have Lyhr in the Wizard's Tower as well. We can get them with Astral Acclaim. And all of this isn't even mentioning the weekly amount you can get from WvW and PvP.

I'm not saying you should engage in all that content. Do what you like and ignore the rest. My point is there are so many guaranteed ways to get mystic clovers these days, there is no need to gamble. Someone who engages in all aspects of the game can get their 77 clovers in 2 weeks without gambling for them. The only prerequisite is playing the game so you get the currency/items needed to buy the clovers. I'm pretty sure there is something in the list above that you enjoy doing, even if it is only the dailies/weeklies/specials for Astral Acclaim.

[DeanBB.4268]

Astral acclaim: 20 per season (at least this season)

Myani (mystic forge attendant): 10 per week (purchasing not gambling)

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Starting from scratch you could have 80 in 6 weeks from just those 2 sources.

[Jedrik.3109]

1 hour ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It took me 2 years to get my first legendary weapon just tired of the grind and getting nothing for it other than more crafting stuff where they are almost max out to 1000 in my 

1. Sell materials 

2. Buy mystic coins 

3. Make clovers

4. ???????

5. Make legendary 

You're welcome. 

[Chichimec.9364]

5 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It took me 2 years to get my first legendary weapon just tired of the grind and getting nothing for it other than more crafting stuff where they are almost max out to 1000 in my storage

Ouch! At this point I have 15 legendary weapons and getting them wasn't a grind for me at all. Doggie here does the same thing I do, something which makes the whole process far easier...

5 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said:

...Or just do Hardstuck boss meta trains every day, other daily farm stuff, or whatever else fun and buy the weapon from TP as previously mentioned. 😊Crafting isn't for everyone...

I haven't crafted a single legendary weapon. The 15 I have are all Gen 1s bought off the Trading Post with gold I earned doing things in the game I enjoy. It wasn't until Anet first announced that we were going to get the Legendary Armory that I started going after legendary weapons. I don't remember how long ago that was so I can't give you an average time that it took me to earn the gold to buy each of those legendaries. However, I do know that it didn't take two years to accumulate the gold for each one.

[DanAlcedo.3281]

6 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It not a SKILL ISSUE it just I tired of the grinding and spending gold I learn and get kitten screw it I am done explaining good to those player have so much time on there hands 

It was your own choice to go for the grind. 

Nobody forced you. 

It was your own choice to not inform yourself about what you will have to do. 

It was your own choice to not look up information that is accessible to everyone able to use Google, in order to make your own life easier. 

 

 

[kenzil.5983]

6 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It took me 2 years to get my first legendary weapon just tired of the grind and getting nothing for it other than more crafting stuff where they are almost max out to 1000 in my storage

250 gold from the gem store cost about 10-15$ so if your not short on money irl, just buy gold once and get some clovers that way.

 

if you want to f2p it and want more then one more legendary weapon i would suggest you dont rush it and focus on turning your passive farmed gold in to clovers for the legendary starter kits that anet will continue to release over time wich then saves you alot of gold too.

 

You could also try to get the aurene legendarys instead and they cost like 35 clovers each if i recall correctly.

[Ashantara.8731]

8 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Tired of the Damm grind to get these Damm things Tired of the WvW grind to get them and on a reward track you get 7 mystic clover if you are lucky and Mystic Forge is crap too 30% chance of getting 10 of them so when most weapons I mean legendary weapons cost 77 mystic clover each and for each legendary armor you have to have 15 Mystic clovers so why in the world can't a net allow us to craft them it would save a lot of BS and a whole lot of time and playing the game I am so tired of the grind to just get one freaking piece of legendary equipment I don't think it'll be a big problem to craft them that way you get 100% of what you're getting and it makes more sense and for some of you that already thinks it's okay to wait it is then good for you I'm not going to sit and play at a game 5 hours at a time to get maybe four mystic clovers and I'm not going to spend my hard-earned farming gold to spend and have 30% chance of getting mystic clovers at mystic forge. And some may argue that's going to ruin the market in the game I think it's going to help everybody who's going to make the game more enjoyable at least you're working towards something just sitting there doing grind after grind after grind after grind.

1. Punctuation?
2. You can craft Mystic Clover: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_Clover#Recipes

[illuminati.8453]

I wanted to add one other thing OP, you are perhaps thinking about the acquisition of legendaries in the wrong way - the process you find so frustrating is exactly the process some of us find rewarding and fun.  

I started out as you and found the time gating annoying but there is quite a bit of satisfaction to be had in tuning your daily routine, leveraging alts and all around creating efficiency where there used to be bottlenecks.  Once your account is humming along you won't notice the time gating as much.  In fact, you'll not want to rush clovers since it puts a strain on other areas of your material storage and currencies.  

Enjoy the game for what it is - a grindy collection game that becomes pretty rewarding once you get things going despite the slow start for new players.  The legendaries will come if you stop focusing on when. 🙂

Edited October 4 by illuminati.8453

[RDBuck.6098]

Just forget it anytime anyone says they have a few hours to play this game and suggest to make alittle easier because they don't like wvw nor pvp and have a hard time get a group for riads and so on you all ridicule and belittle and say mean stuff look everyone wants legendary but when u havea few hours to play you should enjoy the game. Plus the mystic Forge is only a 33% guaranteed so if I put that type of recipe in that form I 100% guarantee then they won't be no problem

[WaifuJanna.9108]

12 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Tired of the Damm grind to get these Damm things Tired of the WvW grind to get them and on a reward track you get 7 mystic clover if you are lucky and Mystic Forge is crap too 30% chance of getting 10 of them so when most weapons I mean legendary weapons cost 77 mystic clover each and for each legendary armor you have to have 15 Mystic clovers so why in the world can't a net allow us to craft them it would save a lot of BS and a whole lot of time and playing the game I am so tired of the grind to just get one freaking piece of legendary equipment I don't think it'll be a big problem to craft them that way you get 100% of what you're getting and it makes more sense and for some of you that already thinks it's okay to wait it is then good for you I'm not going to sit and play at a game 5 hours at a time to get maybe four mystic clovers and I'm not going to spend my hard-earned farming gold to spend and have 30% chance of getting mystic clovers at mystic forge. And some may argue that's going to ruin the market in the game I think it's going to help everybody who's going to make the game more enjoyable at least you're working towards something just sitting there doing grind after grind after grind after grind.

Astral Claims. and/or weekly vendors and/or mystic fortune.

 

Legendary are not supposed to be "i want all" ... you select one you like, and craft ONE. which should be possible with the magic clovers from astral claims.

[Cyninja.2954]

18 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Just forget it anytime anyone says they have a few hours to play this game and suggest to make alittle easier because they don't like wvw nor pvp and have a hard time get a group for riads and so on you all ridicule and belittle and say mean stuff look everyone wants legendary but when u havea few hours to play you should enjoy the game. Plus the mystic Forge is only a 33% guaranteed so if I put that type of recipe in that form I 100% guarantee then they won't be no problem

But your primary complaint was about the rng nature of acquiring Mystic Clovers, which as was pointed out is simply NOT an issue in today's GW2 IF one knows how to acquire clovers outside of the mystic forge recipe, for which there are multiple avenues by now.

Now if your primary complaint is: I want legendaries faster and cheaper, that's an entirely different can of worms.

In that case:

- aim for the legendary items which are featured in the legendary starter kit in the Wizards Vault (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_Weapon_Starter_Kit). Those items have also dropped in price significantly

- aim for EoD legendary weapons and spend time in self gathering the resources. These legendaries are significantly cheaper because the primary cause for their price is the time gated materials, which if self acquired regularly (especially Antique Summoning Stones) will cut the cost to sub gen1 weapons

Now if you want even cheaper legendary items than that, you might be out of luck until the developers decide to offer those.

[DanAlcedo.3281]

25 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Just forget it anytime anyone says they have a few hours to play this game and suggest to make alittle easier because they don't like wvw nor pvp and have a hard time get a group for riads and so on you all ridicule and belittle and say mean stuff look everyone wants legendary but when u havea few hours to play you should enjoy the game. Plus the mystic Forge is only a 33% guaranteed so if I put that type of recipe in that form I 100% guarantee then they won't be no problem

But why complain now? 

You 100% looked up how to make a legendary. Which means you must have known what it will take to get one. 

You said you are tired from the grind, so you must already be in it for a while. 

You don't start to run a marathon and complain half way about the length. 

 

[Passerbye.6291]

  I won't suggest alternate routes as many others already have.

12 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

it would save a lot of BS and a whole lot of time and playing the game I am so tired of the grind

11 hours ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

It not a SKILL ISSUE it just I tired of the grinding

Here's your problem, you hate the game, or at least what is involved in crafting legendaries, and you force yourself to do it. The solution you've suggested to the problem reads out as "I hate farming for legendaries, make them easy so that I can get them all and quit the game". The actual, proper solution is stopping obssessing over a game, this isn't your job, don't force yourself to do something you don't enjoy, the entire point of a game is to enjoy yourself, you're going at it the wrong way, and blaming the system for it.

Funnily enough, you yourself unknowingly provided the solution:

45 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

but when u havea few hours to play you should enjoy the game

Get ascended, the game throws ascended pieces at you, do raids/strikes/fractals, even dungeons, do yet another exploration, dump on some kids in snowball fight at Taigan Groves in Wayfarer Foothills (seriously, what kid dares challenge someone who's known to have killed dragons?), go fishing and catch some half eaten shoes, make some people uncomfortable by standing way too close to them, touch some grass in verdant brink, kill some pocket raptors and make yourself some poultry dish.
TLDR: Don't force yourself to do content you don't enjoy and then blame the content for it.

Edited October 4 by Passerbye.6291

[Dibit.6259]

Not everyone wants legendary, the game makes it so it's a qol item rather than necessary and for good reason. They are ment to take time and require a lot of grinding, if you try to rush it then you'll most likely end up getting stressed, bored or even straight up hating the game.

The issue you seem to be facing is that you dislike the methods you currently use to obtain clovers. Many people have pointed out several ways to get clovers here. It's up to you if you want to try and use these methods.

Also just because you dislike or find certain aspects of the game difficult doesn't mean that they need to be made easier. Legendary armour is meant to be a challenge and something to work towards. If it's made easier then it will loose some of its value and appeal. It's not needed to play the game so not everyone needs to have it.

Edited October 4 by Dibit.6259
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[TheNecrosanct.4028]

4 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

1. Punctuation?
2. You can craft Mystic Clover: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_Clover#Recipes

A Mystic Forge recipe that only has 1/3 chance of giving you mystic clovers is not a guaranteed way. If you'd actually read the OP, you'd know this is one of the things they don't like. And granted, I never liked it either. The only difference is I don't complain on the forum about things I don't like that I choose to do anyway. OP obviously meant a guaranteed crafting recipe for one of the actual crafting disciplines.

51 minutes ago, RDBuck.6098 said:

Just forget it anytime anyone says they have a few hours to play this game and suggest to make alittle easier because they don't like wvw nor pvp and have a hard time get a group for riads and so on you all ridicule and belittle and say mean stuff look everyone wants legendary but when u havea few hours to play you should enjoy the game. Plus the mystic Forge is only a 33% guaranteed so if I put that type of recipe in that form I 100% guarantee then they won't be no problem

With all due respect, not everyone posted reactions like that. Personally mine wasn't meant to be belittling or ridiculing you. I am just seriously wondering how it took you 2 years to get 77 mystic clovers when there were guaranteed ways that don't involve chance to get that amount in 1 year (the previous login reward for day 28), for which you only needed to log on. No gameplay needed whatsoever. I also thought it would be helpful to list all the ways in which you can get guaranteed mystic clovers these days. It's regrettable you don't seem to find that helpful.

Even if you don't do Raids, Fractals, Strike Missions, WvW or PvP, there's still the daily system and Miyani to get your clovers from, in which case it would only take 2 months, not 2 years, to get a legendary weapon. Or 1 month if you decide to make gen 3 (Aurene) legendary weapons, since they only need 38 mystic clovers instead of 77.

Edit: Oh, right, and the Drizzlewood Coast meta. Pick a reward track (represent a Charr faction) and go play. That meta is still very active.

Edited October 4 by TheNecrosanct.4028
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