Wizard's Vault: Reward Requests

[Resident.7421]

Keeping it realistic, I'd to see some different consumable goodies come thru the vault in the future. There are some items that I think a lot of players would like to have but are disinclined to pay gems for. Off the top of my head,

• Mystic Forge Stones
• Name Change Contract
• Additional Crafting License

Certainly there are things I want more than these items, but I was trying to think of handy luxury items that I simply cannot imagine anyone ever paying gems for. The vault would be a good place to obtain stuff like that, imo. To be somewhat more fanciful, perhaps,

• Mount Adoption Licenses
• Skin Vouchers
• Equipment Template Expansions (I find the Build Template Expansions fairly useless without these to go along with em, how about you.)
• Potions of PvP and WvW Reward (Shouldn't have been discontinued. They were a huge help, and with these and the old 12 daily system I actually had incentive to play other modes. I do miss that. Haven't played PvP since the change.... 😑 That's my biggest, most fanciful request lol. Bring back the 12 daily system!)

[Resident.7421]

Please add your own requests! Or just your thoughts. These funny faces that appear on posts without any explanation do make me curious. 🙃

[idpersona.3810]

I would like to see Spirit Shards added.

 

And things like the Black Lion Salvage kits. I have plenty from the beforetimes, but they would be nice to be able to get without gems or statuettes.

Edited November 1, 2023 by idpersona.3810

[Randulf.7614]

The Boxing gloves that vanished circa March 2013

[Sobx.1758]

1 hour ago, idpersona.3810 said:

I would like to see Spirit Shards added.

You can already buy 35 spirit shards 😄

1 hour ago, idpersona.3810 said:

And things like the Black Lion Salvage kits. I have plenty from the beforetimes, but they would be nice to be able to get without gems or statuettes.

I don't need them for anything, but I'd say making them available -but capped- for aa makes sense, considering the previous reward system.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Parasite.5389]

1 hour ago, idpersona.3810 said:

And things like the Black Lion Salvage kits. I have plenty from the beforetimes, but they would be nice to be able to get without gems or statuettes.

just buy upgrade extrators if you really want to save the Rune/Sigil before salvaging

[Parasite.5389]

3 hours ago, Resident.7421 said:

• Mystic Forge Stones
• Name Change Contract
• Additional Crafting License
• Mount Adoption Licenses
• Skin Vouchers
• Equipment Template Expansions
• Potions of PvP and WvW Reward

• Mystic Forge stones: are mostly useless, and we already get them through achievemnt chests
• Name change contracts: are rarely used by the majority of the playerbase, and not something that should be regularly available through the WV, and too niche as a seasonal banner item.
• Additional crafting licences: similarly, can only be bought twice per account and are not something that needs to be available through the vault
• Mount Adoption licences/Skin Vouchers: the vault already has mount, weapon, and armor skins available; the existing mount adoption licences and gem store skins are regularly available at sale prices, all you're asking with this is to further de-value the gemstore.
• Equipment Templates: this one i do agree with, i would prefer this in the Vault over the Build storage templates
• PvP/WvW potions: utterly useless

[Glacial.9516]

3 hours ago, Resident.7421 said:

Potions of PvP and WvW Reward

This. These potions are what I miss most from the old dailies and I hope they will find their way into future rewards in one form or another.

[idpersona.3810]

1 hour ago, Sobx.1758 said:

You can already buy 35 spirit shards 😄

The Mastery coffers are just about another spirit shard each as well. So if someone doesn't want the 20g for them, that's another 19 shards or so. We used to get 84 a month from dailies. No longer getting them has made a surprising big difference in my legendary crafting journey these last few months.

1 hour ago, Parasite.5389 said:

just buy upgrade extrators if you really want to save the Rune/Sigil before salvaging

Seems like an extra step workaround for something that is already in game. /shrug. I suppose that works though.

[Resident.7421]

2 hours ago, Parasite.5389 said:

• Mystic Forge stones: are mostly useless, and we already get them through achievemnt chests

Well just because something is available thru the vault doesn't mean you have to buy it. The usefulness of these stones is kind of individualized person to person and depending on your play style you may run them out on salvage kits much quicker than you gain them thru achievement points. That's why I suggested them along with other questionable items like the name change. They are things that may be nice to have for certain people but are pretty unlikely to be gotten thru the current means considering how expensive and impractical they are. The vault seems like a good place for niche items like that.

I didn't know the crafting licenses were limited to 2 per account. What a stupid item.

Also I wasn't necessarily suggesting these things to be available every season. I'd like to see some variety among the prizes aside from the "legacy" exclusives, and these items might be an occasional bonus but not guaranteed. It takes a long time for gem store stuff to roll around sometimes, and being able to get something thru another means once in a while would be a reason to log in, and wouldn't significantly devalue the gem store because it wouldn't be a reliable way of acquiring the thing you want.

And potions of PvP and WvW reward are a super not-useless item. Like many other things on my list it depends on your play style.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Resident.7421
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[Parasite.5389]

30 minutes ago, Resident.7421 said:

Also I wasn't necessarily suggesting these things to be available every season. I'd like to see some variety among the prizes aside from the "legacy" exclusives, and these items might be an occasional bonus but not guaranteed

anything available through the Wizards vault with ALWAYS be available through the wizards vault.  there are not FOMO items, thats what the gemstore is for.

[Barraind.7324]

Supreme Rune of Holding. 

Currently only available behind a limited gamble. 

[Danikat.8537]

From the old login rewards I'd like to get back Mystic Forge Stones and Black Lion Salvage Kits.

I also think the Black Lion Vouchers could be a good option. I suspect they'd be one of the more expensive items and there would probably only be 1 kind of voucher available at a time, but it would be a good way to offer a lot of choice without cluttering up the menu.

I like the idea of bringing back the potions of PvP and WvW reward, but I'm not sure how Anet would feel about the fact that you'd be able to get them from any achievements, not specifically the WvW and PvP ones. I know people already used the 'PvE' achievements in WvW to complete reward tracks (things like killing veterans and claiming ruins which you could do without fighting other players) but you at least had to go into WvW to do them. This would make the rewards from those game modes directly available in PvE, which Anet doesn't seem to want to do.

10 hours ago, Randulf.7614 said:

The Boxing gloves that vanished circa March 2013

Agreed. I think that's the one skin that was removed and then never made available again. The town clothes got turned into tonics and then outfits and eventually were available again, even the celebration hat came back as a promo item, it bothers me that this one item was sold briefly and then never available again.

5 hours ago, Parasite.5389 said:

anything available through the Wizards vault with ALWAYS be available through the wizards vault.  there are not FOMO items, thats what the gemstore is for.

It's only the unique cosmetics which will go into the legacy tab. The original article said: "The rewards in the Wizard’s Vault rotate every few months, but any cosmetic rewards introduced through the Wizard’s Vault will remain available." 

I think from the current selection that means the Bless emote, Sanctified Armour skins, Enchanted Owl Griffon skin, and the Sanctified Weapon skins. All the things which are also available via another method won't appear in the legacy tab.

[Astralporing.1957]

6 hours ago, Parasite.5389 said:

anything available through the Wizards vault with ALWAYS be available through the wizards vault.  there are not FOMO items, thats what the gemstore is for.

Untrue. From what they mentioned, only the visual rewards (so, skins) will be moved to legacy tab. For all other rewards there's no such guarantee.

[Doggie.3184]

8 minutes ago, Danikat.8537 said:

Agreed. I think that's the one skin that was removed and then never made available again. The town clothes got turned into tonics and then outfits and eventually were available again, even the celebration hat came back as a promo item, it bothers me that this one item was sold briefly and then never available again.

I loved my Boxing Gloves and used it with custom "Boxing Outfit" that was just shirtless with the Shorts in town clothing template, but now they're perma-linked to a really ugly premade outfit combination and I don't use them anymore cuz of it. Wish they went back to being stand-alone Gloves.

And I too am a WvW Potion enjoyer. Would like to see those back.

Crafting License would be neat. I've wanted one but it's so ultra-niche and oddly designed (unlocks on all chars with a limit that wouldn't allow 1 char unlock every craft) that I've not wasted the high gem price on it. Would probably get with AA though. Kinda like 'Build Storage Expansion'~ ultra useless due to cost and niche use but I bought it with AA just because I could and got everything else I wanted at that point.

Supreme Rune of Holding.... I'd be all over those XD I'm not a gambler.

[Gop.8713]

Of the things mentioned, mystic stones and name change contracts would be my vote for best choices. Things I'd never spend gems on but would still be useful if they were 'free' from vault. Also the supreme runes of holding. Another not-very-useful item that has kind of gotten out of control on tp since gambling was throttled back . . .

Of the things I'd most want that I don't think should be added I'd say lounge passes. Would be very popular but I also imagine they're a big part of gem sales . . .

[kharmin.7683]

Aren't many of these items already available in the gem store?  I don't think that Anet is expect the vault to replace the gem store.  /shrug

[Parasite.5389]

2 hours ago, Danikat.8537 said:

It's only the unique cosmetics which will go into the legacy tab. The original article said: "The rewards in the Wizard’s Vault rotate every few months, but any cosmetic rewards introduced through the Wizard’s Vault will remain available." 

I think from the current selection that means the Bless emote, Sanctified Armour skins, Enchanted Owl Griffon skin, and the Sanctified Weapon skins. All the things which are also available via another method won't appear in the legacy tab.

 

1 hour ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

Untrue. From what they mentioned, only the visual rewards (so, skins) will be moved to legacy tab. For all other rewards there's no such guarantee.

I guess we'll fine out in 5 days; but my prediction is going to be that only those 6 items are going to rotate out: We've already had confirmed that we're getting the remaining 3 armor peices for the Sanctified set, and a variant of the weapon set, that leave 2 new items(probably not a new mount skin, maybe a new emote), everything else will stay relatively the same(the Legendary starter kit selection will likely change.)

[Luthan.5236]

I'd like to see all the old BLC consumable items back - that could drop from the daily login rewards. Though the main interesting one is the salvage kit imo. Trading post express also can be interesting but I have enough of them - mainly used for the guild upgrades. The revive orb this season is not that interesting.

To keep it limited but not have to change items each season (instead having all available every time) I'd suggest to add a curreny. I think I posted this in some older thread some time ago. Sell a "blc consumable item ticket" (use a better name for the item please lol) a limited times - each season. Let the player get like ... revive orbs for 1 ticket. But also the better stuff that is more in demand. (Costing more tickets.)

Of course they could also add all of the possible items. Each one a limited time in each and every season. But that might be too much then.

[Brave Mallyki.1563]

12 hours ago, Parasite.5389 said:

• Mystic Forge stones: are mostly useless, and we already get them through achievemnt chests
• Name change contracts: are rarely used by the majority of the playerbase, and not something that should be regularly available through the WV, and too niche as a seasonal banner item.
• Additional crafting licences: similarly, can only be bought twice per account and are not something that needs to be available through the vault
• Mount Adoption licences/Skin Vouchers: the vault already has mount, weapon, and armor skins available; the existing mount adoption licences and gem store skins are regularly available at sale prices, all you're asking with this is to further de-value the gemstore.
• Equipment Templates: this one i do agree with, i would prefer this in the Vault over the Build storage templates
• PvP/WvW potions: utterly useless

How can you in one stance against adding Gem Store exclusive items claim that adding them to the Wizard's Vault would devalue the Gem Store, but right after say you want a Gem Store exclusive added to the Wizard's Vault? 

Just because you find no use in an item doesn't make it useless. 

Adding WvW potions to the Wizard's Vault would allow the gamers that do not want to WvW a way of obtaining their Gift of Battle for their legendary.

[Cernoch.8524]

I would really like to see Supreme runes of holding cause there is no actual way of getting them in entire game except rng gambling. 
I would not mind 1-2 bl keys but I doubt that will happen. 
If they will add some gem store items it will be something everyone use, like they did with build templates, so bag slot for example, name change seems very unlikely to me cause very limited number of ppl would use it. 

Imo it is more about fixing the prices cause T5 bags, luck and few other things were totally out and not worth getting even if its the last thing you need. It was cheaper to get 1g for 30AA, buy gear and salvage it for luck.

[Ashen.2907]

The name change contract mentioned previously in this thread could be nice. Other than that nothing comes to mind.

[evilcat.6817]

Mystic Forge - not something i would use, but i can see someone can need them

Gear Templete Slot - that is something i would deffinetly need.

EDIT: Build skill templates... havent bought it yet, but i start to think that it is not totally useless for me, so keep it up.

OMG actually there are spirit shard, you just need to use ToK on lv80 charr char, complexity hits again.

Edited November 2, 2023 by evilcat.6817

[idpersona.3810]

I was thinking about it further and for the spirit shards, they could easily just make the Tomes of Knowledge unlimited. I don't really see how that would adversely affect anything and would allow for a trade off of skipping the unlimited gold in exchange for Spirit shards if wanted.

[TheNecrosanct.4028]

12 hours ago, Barraind.7324 said:

Supreme Rune of Holding. 

Currently only available behind a limited gamble. 

And on the TP.