Skill Lag getting worse and worse

[Chaba.5410]

13 minutes ago, anduriell.6280 said:

I meant the checkbox to activate it has always been there. 
It would be fun if the commanders could not do the one pixel blob thing and had to prepare the squads properly. 

You must mean melee assist.  It's faked body collision.  Completely on the client-side and does nothing really other than cripple yourself.  Your targets can still collide with you and then you're screwed as you try to turn around to face them.

Edited November 12 by Chaba.5410

[Custodio.6134]

On 11/12/2023 at 4:24 AM, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said:

you assume that this is something that anet can do something about.

but:

your connection might be bad with real time stuff. And no, watching 5 streams at the same time is not the same. 

your isp's peering with amazon might suck

you are just living too far from the data centers

buffer bloat

sooo, you are telling me, that out of our not even full squad (~30 ppl -ish), that live all over the place in germany and austria, every single ISP is bad, everyone is far away from the datacenter (which literally is in Frankfurt, Germany, aka at maximum 700km assuming the longest driving distance possible when staying within germany);

and on that note: 700km is barely noticable. On average, you get ~3 microseconds of latency per kilometer, so from connection alone you´ll have on average 2100 microseconds (21 milliseconds) as latency within germany; and everyone has buffer-bloat issues?!? 

sorry to say, but that sounds incredibly unrealistic. all of that may be issues that may be true if a single player has such a problem, but with entire squads having the same thing (we also got notice from full squads and other maps as well), sorry but at that point, it´s safe to say that it´s a server-sided issue

Edited November 13 by Custodio.6134

[VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.]

well, you are probably a Deutsche Telekom customer? The isp with some of the worst peering?

Because for some magical reason I live in Germany. I do not suffer from skillag.

[Zephyrus.9680]

People that instantly blame Anet (Amazon servers) should understand there are multiple causes of skill lag and a lot of the time it isn't Anet/Amazon causing it. For instance, I almost never experience skill lag. If the servers are actually the issue, everyone on those servers should experience it, right? But usually they don't (sometimes, rarely, it really is the servers and THEN everyone sees it).

Before upgrading my PC, I used to get skill lag when the CPU was reaching 100% during big fights. That was my PC. So there are multiple causes including CPU, ISP/geographic location relative to game servers, and finally the game servers themselves.

[Tythan.2936]

Oh god. No the whole server won't lag at the same time. Only the people in the area where big fights happen (inside a keep for example). It's been a common things for years, and getting worse recently : your 50 ppl squad fights another 50 ppl squad on reset, all good, then the squad from the 3rd server gets nearby (they don't even need to join the fight, just stand at a certain distance) and the 2 fighting squads start having huge skill-lag. You can even guess if another group is about to join the fight, and potentially push you by surprise, due to that.
Nowadays you don't even need a 3rd squad, a hundred players fighting in a keep is enough.

You can argue all you want, but if literally a hundred players, all with different specs/location/internet provider get the same issue at the same time it's safe to say upgrading your CPU won't fix it ^^

[Custodio.6134]

9 hours ago, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said:

well, you are probably a Deutsche Telekom customer? The isp with some of the worst peering?

No, I'm not. But: almost the entire cables in Germany are owned and maintained by Telekom. Other providers exist, but they also only use the infrastructure of Telekom, very rarely do they have their own cables,and those are limited to extremely small local areas. So even if you are a customer of vodafone, m-net or whatever, the cables are still Telekom. 

[Aeolus.3615]

People with massive lag, fps drops and desync, are u  with windows 10 or 11 and nvidia and intel?

I cant play this game on win10 for example with a 6700k even oc'ed, becomes a lagfest (actually have no issue with gw2 on a server ._. game becomes super mega fluid even on wvw), guess play on my game rig is no longer viable :D /irony

Seams it can be some driver towards certain hardware????

 

Edited November 14 by Aeolus.3615

[CrimsonOneThree.5682]

On 11/14/2023 at 10:52 AM, Tythan.2936 said:

Oh god. No the whole server won't lag at the same time. Only the people in the area where big fights happen (inside a keep for example). It's been a common things for years, and getting worse recently : your 50 ppl squad fights another 50 ppl squad on reset, all good, then the squad from the 3rd server gets nearby (they don't even need to join the fight, just stand at a certain distance) and the 2 fighting squads start having huge skill-lag. You can even guess if another group is about to join the fight, and potentially push you by surprise, due to that.
Nowadays you don't even need a 3rd squad, a hundred players fighting in a keep is enough.

You can argue all you want, but if literally a hundred players, all with different specs/location/internet provider get the same issue at the same time it's safe to say upgrading your CPU won't fix it ^^

Pretty much this.

Don't really look forward to reset night currently, no matter the tier. The maps will lag, even if one other server has a cloud of only 35+ as it stands, especially inside keeps, even outside of reset.

Edited November 15 by CrimsonOneThree.5682

[ChrisWhitey.9076]

My guess is that it all happens in the same area with 50v50 groups is the servers cannot keep up with damage calculations. Which I imagine with the new relics are probably making things worse. There are also skills that have damage priority and other things you can do to take advantage. Lag builds are becoming a thing and it is kind fun if you expect it. 

[XenesisII.1540]

12 minutes ago, ChrisWhitey.9076 said:

Lag builds are becoming a thing and it is kind fun if you expect it. 

Probably the only person in the game that enjoys lag..... 🤒

[Dawdler.8521]

1 hour ago, XenesisII.1540 said:

Probably the only person in the game that enjoys lag..... 🤒

Probably the only person that also forget the basic "lag builds" ie healer guard and aoe necro has been that thing for the last 11 years.

[Chaba.5410]

2 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

Probably the only person that also forget the basic "lag builds" ie healer guard and aoe necro has been that thing for the last 11 years.

Old guardian loot stick RIP

[ChrisWhitey.9076]

I mean it has been known for a while now that you can just abuse lag with enough minon mancers then if you have a comp that does well in lag you can run groups over. I doubt that servers will ever be able to handle full group of them ever so it is just part of the game. Best solution I would say is to reduce the size of groups from 50 and make a massive debuff for having multiple tags stacking but that makes the game worse in other ways.

[XenesisII.1540]

Weird but got no skill lag tonight on prime time est, ebg smc, fighting pugs and mid sized boon balls.

Blackgate isn't in the match, unlike last sat was getting skill lag against them..

Weird that huh. 🤷‍♂️