Which offhand Will You Use With Scepter?

[Spudzie.5486]

Seeing as Rev only has 3 offhands (2 w/o SoTo), wondering what everyone is looking forward to running with the scepter. 
Obviously shield for PvE support. But for WvW and PvP what’re we feeling?  Is shield just the premier pick?

[arazoth.7290]

for power roamer builds I would choose off hand sword for more mobility/pinning him down and u have scepter pull. And if you want some more cc going also well with axe.

If this weapon "would" have some damaging condi it could go well with axe too. Because in general the description said damage, but little vague if they don't want to spoil maybe something else. Also the strengthening effects, what impact it has on the enemy was vague too for interpretation.

In short: 

off hand sword/axe will be mostly used for roamer/dps builds imo.

Some bruiser or support builds will have shield probably, nice with centaur and jalis

[Jobber.6348]

Offhand Sword. 

Shiro start: Enchanted Daggers > PT then swap to Jalis for Stab and additional Taunt to keep the target still > Tether > go into Auto spam while keeping close. 

Tether charge complete > Shiro swap with Song of the Mist for Quickness  > Reactivate to pull> Shackling Wave > Death Strike. 

Just spitballing atm. Will have to see how the weapon actually behaves on 28th

Also you can just straight up consider weapon combos: Tether pull and then swapping to Mace plus Axe lockdown could be lethal. Tether pull into Greatsword 5 could be pretty nice too. Could also Tether pull into Shortbow 5 and Shortbow 4 on a Condi build. So many possibilities. What if enemy has Stab? Well time for Brutality to shine again. But I'm getting way overboard with this. 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Yasai.3549

[Spudzie.5486]

2 hours ago, Yasai.3549 said:

Offhand Sword. 

Shiro start: Enchanted Daggers > PT then swap to Jalis for Stab and additional Taunt to keep the target still > Tether > go into Auto spam while keeping close. 

Tether charge complete > Shiro swap with Song of the Mist for Quickness  > Reactivate to pull> Shackling Wave > Death Strike. 

Just spitballing atm. Will have to see how the weapon actually behaves on 28th

Also you can just straight up consider weapon combos: Tether pull and then swapping to Mace plus Axe lockdown could be lethal. Tether pull into Greatsword 5 could be pretty nice too. Could also Tether pull into Shortbow 5 and Shortbow 4 on a Condi build. So many possibilities. What if enemy has Stab? Well time for Brutality to shine again. But I'm getting way overboard with this. 

Really like the offhand sword combo idea. Played it out in my mind lol.  Really curious to see how much energy the scepter skills will cost. That will really determine what combos we can actually pull off. 

renegade with shiro/Jalis will be big damage on scepter autos + 2/3 Looking forward to that. 

[Jobber.6348]

5 minutes ago, Spudzie.5486 said:

Really curious to see how much energy the scepter skills will cost.

That's why I planned the swaps into the rotation. Again, I'm overthinking probably. 

[Lighter.5631]

axe or shield tbh

scepter feels like bruiser/control type that stays with enemy, similar to condi herald

OH sword is hit and run

and death strike already has a port, pulling is unnecessary 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Lighter.5631

[Jobber.6348]

3 hours ago, Lighter.5631 said:

OH sword is hit and run

and death strike already has a port, pulling is unnecessary 

Not really imo. The playstyle that fits it best is hit and run but with a cleaving immob and a gap closer, it's more suitable for aggression and brawling. 
It'll be a perfect fit for Scepter to help melee sustain while you have a hyper aggressive follow up. 

Just because you have X means you don't need Y doesn't apply to competitive Gw2. It's more like "even if I have X, why not have more and more so that I have fall backs?" 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Yasai.3549

[Panda.1967]

I’m going to be using it with shield on my Support Herald… been trying to figure out a better weapon to pair with it than Sword forever now…

[Shao.7236]

Axe because if I'm going to be hitting multiple targets, I want all my skills to benefit me in that regard.

[vilesoldier.9826]

59 minutes ago, Shao.7236 said:

Axe because if I'm going to be hitting multiple targets, I want all my skills to benefit me in that regard.

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[Bish.8627]

As far as I know, we dont know exactly its damage and barrier/boon capability yet. So here are my ideal scenarios

WvW, if it does damage it could slot in with hammer rev as its melee weapon swap, I would probably take axe for the CC as maybe most you would be doing is auto attacking in a zerg fight. If it really helps rev support because the barrier is strong, then shield offhand, my hope is the barrier is strong enough I can drop centaur and give stability, making it a slightly weaker firebrand for stab, but better for healing/cleansing and on top giving a ton of might. Could see herald as a support if the barrier is good enough.

PvE group content, if the damage is decent it just slots instead of sword with sword maybe even sword/scepter/sword swapping between legends like staying scepter on herald and sword on assassin. If it does some condi damage, it could become a condi herald weapon with axe again.

Open world, if its got some condi, easily slots for high survivability vindi or herald in celestial gear, who already get barrier per boon, this would top that up and with axe offhand for CC/Torment be super strong. If its just physical, could be nice for a more survivable build that doesnt rely on celestial stats, like herald with the barrier trait, quickness and barrier to face tank stuff. In that case sword/sword/sheild as weapon swap for extra survivability.

Either way I play Rev 90% PvE and a little WvW as I play Firebrand/Willbender in WvW most of the time. This weapon is the one I am most excited about as it could open the door to Rev having more roles or just make the ones we have stronger. Glad I got that legendary starter pack as I dont have a legendary scepter but quite ready to gamble and make it and hope it means I can take my rev into WvW just as much as I play it open world.

[Jobber.6348]

8 hours ago, Bish.8627 said:

WvW, if it does damage it could slot in with hammer rev as its melee weapon swap, I would probably take axe for the CC as maybe most you would be doing is auto attacking in a zerg fight.

I'm actually expecting Heralds to just ditch Hammer altogether and go for Scepter and becoming frontlines because of the 360 cleave on third chain and the barrier. But this will have to depend on 28th's Hammer tweaks. I'm very interested in how Hammer would work after 28th. 

[Knighthonor.4061]

Sword for damage 

And shield for support 

Not like we have a lot of options 

[Gustaff.6581]

It would be wild if scepter does more damage than main hand sword, so i could play scepter/sword in a power build.

[Aeolus.3615]

On 11/17/2023 at 4:46 PM, Panda.1967 said:

I’m going to be using it with shield on my Support Herald… been trying to figure out a better weapon to pair with it than Sword forever now…

In regards that  best main weapon both mace and sword are most probably at same lvl on herald support builds since were lacking a decent main hand that fit's the role  i actually moved to mace (also since specter will be weird melee range and will aply condi)at least u will help increase the stacks on condi since everything stacks like a madman but counts the quoficient of the players with the stronger stats.

Also gona pair it with shield on herald most probably , lets see since  i am actually waiting Anet to to heavy nerf herald even more.... infavor of vindicator.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Aeolus.3615

[Angesombre.4630]

Me, I'm afraid of both, because it's never a good thing to have a nerf, especially when it comes from Anet.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Angesombre.4630