About wvw alliances

[Chaba.5410]

30 minutes ago, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

I had no idea.

Sounds like that thing with an item and sunspot for elementalists too.

Was that bug fixed?

I'm unsure about the item/sunspot interaction.

It's usually the Level Up animation and effects that get mistaken for a hack so now you know what to look for.  It used to happen in WvW unintentionally.  Anet's been trying to fix that over the years, like they introduce a new item that causes it because they forgot to disable in combat.

Edited January 17 by Chaba.5410

[SoulGuardian.6203]

47 minutes ago, Chaba.5410 said:

I'm unsure about the item/sunspot interaction.

It's usually the Level Up animation and effects that get mistaken for a hack.  It used to happen in WvW unintentionally.  Anet's been trying to fix that over the years, like they introduce a new item that causes it because they forgot to disable in combat.

Oh OK. Thanks for information. 

Maybe that's what the elementalist was using last night.

 

But yeah, there was something similar months back with an item that would stack tons of boons with the sunspot, then they would switch elite specs and run constantly on an obscene amount of might and other boons... from what I've read in other forums, such as reddit.

Edited January 17 by SoulGuardian.6203

[Chaba.5410]

17 minutes ago, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

I prefer not to know what the exploit is, but with all honesty, I'm really curious to know what causes it.

We're not supposed to discuss exploits on this forum so I refrained from naming it.

[SoulGuardian.6203]

19 minutes ago, Chaba.5410 said:

We're not supposed to discuss exploits on this forum so I refrained from naming it.

Got it.

Best not then.

Thanks

[urd.8306]

Transfering to WSR makes you part of the whole balancing problem.
And btw it's funny that you think your matchup is unbalanced, because your Moogool server turns everything blue 20h of a day.

[SoulGuardian.6203]

22 minutes ago, urd.8306 said:

Transfering to WSR makes you part of the whole balancing problem.
And btw it's funny that you think your matchup is unbalanced, because your Moogool server turns everything blue 20h of a day.

Do you think I should transfer back to Aurora Glade?

[Chaba.5410]

39 minutes ago, urd.8306 said:

Transfering to WSR makes you part of the whole balancing problem.

The problem with transfers is that players have zero visibility into actual population statistics, just vague notions based on meaningless "Full, Very High, High, Medium" statuses and match-up data that is only contextual.  This leads to poor balancing results when players attempt it.  So I can't exactly fault a single individual transferring around.

Edited January 17 by Chaba.5410

[Roaht.6453]

14 hours ago, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

Haha.

Yeah, right.

I'm sure that's what it is.

An elementalist that takes zero damage whilst taking out three players at the same time, with one shot is someone who knows how to fight.

When there is clear evidence, right here, in the forums, people saying that legally, it can not be done.

Sure pal.

You're just admitting that you don't even know how ele works. Currently ele can one shot without any problem, and has some skills to take 0 damage.

Also I'd like to see what you consider a "one shot", did the ele kill you with one attack? Did he use cc and a combo latter? Do you at least check the combat log? There's tools to check what happened on a fight, it could have been a good player, could have been that the three of you were with squishy builds.

You're accusing of people cheating, there are some cheats on this game, but being playing nearly from the begining and never saw unlikable people or modifying her own damage/resilience, next time record it so people can believe you. The easiest explanation is usually correct, on this case I see two things, there could be lag, or that neither of you known how to fight.

Not the first time I'd one shot three people, not the first time I'd failed miserably and died trying, won't be the last for neither of those.

And for the balance, ArenaNet already told us they're using a new algorithm that will need adjustments, and is too soon to bring conclusions.

[Phobos.9736]

15 hours ago, urd.8306 said:

Transfering to WSR makes you part of the whole balancing problem.

I want to leave too. But im broke. Can you fund my transfer to fort ranik? 

[ande.9832]

[SoulGuardian.6203]

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

You're just admitting that you don't even know how ele works.

Don't patronise me.

I'm not grotesquely stupid.

I have 4 elementalists, and had several more throughout the years.

I have soloed a lot of content with elementalists. 

oh, I think that I've got a pretty darn good idea how elementalists work.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

Currently ele can one shot without any problem, and has some skills to take 0 damage.

Well. If that's the case. It shouldn't. 

Nothing should one shot kill anything in this game.

This is a problem and should be fixed.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

Also I'd like to see what you consider a "one shot", did the ele kill you with one attack? Did he use cc and a combo latter? Do you at least check the combat log? There's tools to check what happened on a fight, it could have been a good player, could have been that the three of you were with squishy builds.

I already explained several times.

I'm running full toughness and vitality in this specific Dragon hunter. 

The Reaper that was with us is a darn good fighter. He can take on several people by himself.

So no. We Don't have squishy builds.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

You're accusing of people cheating, there are some cheats on this game

Darn right there are.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

, but being playing nearly from the begining and never saw unlikable people or modifying her own damage/resilience, next time record it so people can believe you.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to have my screen recorder ready.

You serious?

I'm not a cheater hunter. I've got better things to do than to dedicated my time in pursuing the so called "Good fighters"... but yet feel the need to use cheats in order to win.

There are paid staff for those purposes.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

The easiest explanation is usually correct, on this case I see two things, there could be lag

Lag, yes. That, there was.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

, or that neither of you known how to fight.

I'm hoping to find the other two players that were with me that day.

I'll tell them to come read this.

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

Not the first time I'd one shot three people, not the first time I'd failed miserably and died trying, won't be the last for neither of those.

So that's what boils down to.

You don't want the devs to take away from you the ability to one shot kill.

Well, as they said themselves in one of the livestreams... they will.

Just like before.

Remember deadeye"s ability to one shot?

That gone bye bye.

Remember Holosmiths? That too... gone.

Every other class will get their turn. Don't you worry about that. 

8 hours ago, Roaht.6453 said:

And for the balance, ArenaNet already told us they're using a new algorithm that will need adjustments, and is too soon to bring conclusions.

Having the ability to one shot other players is not skill by any stretch of the imagination.

Far from it.

It's pure cowardice from people who fear a proper fight.

So you see, it's the total opposite of what you've said.

It's a cheap move from skilless players who are afraid of a real challenge.

I'm usually pretty good with my dragonhunter.

But I would love to see you going up against that Reaper. 

So yeah. Whether a one shot is legal or not. It's not skill. It's not know how. It's a cheap cowardly way to fight in any event. Period!

...and I really, really hope that A-Net removes the ability to do so.

Then, we will see who the proper "Good fighters" are.

It's in your hands A-Net.

Edited January 18 by SoulGuardian.6203

[Dawdler.8521]

4 minutes ago, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

I'm usually pretty good with my dragonhunter.

Ah, dragonhunter. The class that could insta-kill from 1200 range with timed skills. 0.2s is my record time getting killed - so fast that the game doesnt even know what do with it and one have to look frame by frame to see what happened, because you literally go into downstate before you've even lost half your HP.

[lorethon.5194]

Hello Soulguardian.6203,

Edit out the parts about the one shot and move that to another, fresh, topic.  The trolls and 'experts' can pick it apart there and not dilute the relevant feedback.  I suggest in the new topic (about the one shot cheaters) that you do not let them bait you into a response, just make your points and move on.  I've seen these types of interactions in all the games forums I've visited.  You win no points by engaging high post number forum warriors, save that for the actual pvp in game.

You are not alone in having a miserable time with the beta.  I've logged in a few times to check WvW and logged back out and headed back to WoW.  Also ESO has an annouce today, so that is nice.  Arenanet will either get its act together or not.  All you can do is tell them how you are feeling while playing what is, at the end of the day, just a video game.  Hopefully, they listen.

Have fun!

Edited January 18 by lorethon.5194

[SoulGuardian.6203]

44 minutes ago, lorethon.5194 said:

Hello Soulguardian.6203,

Edit out the parts about the one shot and move that to another, fresh, topic.  The trolls and 'experts' can pick it apart there and not dilute the relevant feedback.  I suggest in the new topic (about the one shot cheaters) that you do not let them bait you into a response, just make your points and move on.  I've seen these types of interactions in all the games forums I've visited.  You win no points by engaging high post number forum warriors, save that for the actual pvp in game.

You are not alone in having a miserable time with the beta.  I've logged in a few times to check WvW and logged back out and headed back to WoW.  Also ESO has an annouce today, so that is nice.  Arenanet will either get its act together or not.  All you can do is tell them how you are feeling while playing what is, at the end of the day, just a video game.  Hopefully, they listen.

Have fun!

Thank you so much for the advice and understanding. 

I will do just that.

All the best, friend. 

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Nu guud guud wsr need delete, wsr psychopath server 🙈

[Cyninja.2954]

My suggestion:

If you can't tell what attack/ability, or even what class/elite spec, finished you off, refrain from yelling "cheating/hacking".

There are a ton of very legitimate interactions which to an inexperienced player might look like cheating. If you can't even name what finished you or gave you trouble, you are inexperienced, it's that simple. A large part of being successful in competative modes is having the experience/knowledge of what you are up against.

Amount of a class or such makes no difference. This is best demonstrated by the huge amount of PvE players who are absolutely clueless, even after thousands of hours of play and/or huge achievement point numbers. The same principle applies to competative modes.

All of this has nothing to do with the world restructuring (and again, that's what this beta is, alliances are NOT yet implemented and currently off the table.  Using the terms interchangable is sloppy).

Finally, yes there are exploits and hacks being used. Experienced players will tell the difference between both. They are far less common than simply being outplayed (but unfortunately not uncommon enough these days).

Edited January 19 by Cyninja.2954

[Burt.9528]

WSR is very evil server perma spawn kill with big norns and asura with disgusting skins, they block peoples and throw toilet paper at us

[One more for the road.8950]

Every time I look into this thread something new have happened with the editing, making it completely disjointed, it's actually quite entertaining.

[Atoclone.4810]

On 1/17/2024 at 7:56 PM, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

 

But yeah, there was something similar months back with an item that would stack tons of boons with the sunspot, then they would switch elite specs and run constantly on an obscene amount of might and other boons... from what I've read in other forums, such as reddit.

That was fixed pretty quick and whilst they fixed it they completely turned off weaver. It's definitely not that

[Atoclone.4810]

On 1/17/2024 at 6:08 PM, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

Please don't tell me it's only Aurora Glade and Whiteside that sees this happening?

You cannot be serious.

whilst i'm not a 100% wvw player and i may not always be paying 100% attention (sorry commanders) i can say i have only seen a couple of incident's that i'm 100% sure was cheating and that was wsr rangers attacking me from under the map

[Roaht.6453]

22 hours ago, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

Nothing should one shot kill anything in this game.

That's false, nothing should be able to one shot without the same risk being applied to it.

 

22 hours ago, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

I'm running full toughness and vitality in this specific Dragon hunter. 

And with that I have nothing more to add, just that phrase says it everything, no clue about what you're doing or how WvW works

[Cyninja.2954]

On 1/18/2024 at 5:48 PM, SoulGuardian.6203 said:

I'm running full toughness and vitality in this specific Dragon hunter.

Putting it in a more constructive way:

Running toughness+vitality makes no sense on DH in WvW. You are neither at max potential for squad fights, nor are you in a good spot to contest roamers.

Roaming/small scale:

DH lacks self-sustain against most roaming builds. The only ones you are superior against are similar ineffective builds (of which there is a lot, granted). Taking toughness over offensive stats removes your 1 benefit/strength: burst.

The majority or meta stat set for roaming is currently celestial, which provides a significant amount of condition damage, which strait up ignores your toughness.

Large scale/blob:

Your survival is far more dependent on proper positioning and team support. Gutting personal damage makes you more dependent on other player performance in your squad. There is some argument to be made that the added toughness will keep you alive longer versus becoming a rally bot for the other side, but that merely means you are covering bad play with stats.

 

There is a reason most meta builds don't run vitality and toughness except on supports.

EDIT: the only situation where toughness makes sense on DH is when running burn DH builds, though I haven't seen those around for a while.

Edited January 20 by Cyninja.2954