Preference for Daily and Weekly Vault as Separate Functions

[Natta.8905]

As the title says. It would be nice if Weekly and Daily Vault Preferences got separate so that if one wanted Daily with PvE only and Weekly as Only PvP then one would not have to switch manually a lot.

Edited May 17 by Natta.8905

[Natta.8905]

I accidentally put this also on PvP but it was here I wanted to put it which I now have too since I can not remove the other one.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

1 hour ago, Natta.8905 said:

I accidentally put this also on PvP but it was here I wanted to put it which I now have too since I can not remove the other one.

You can report the other one and ask a Moderator to remove it.

[Gop.8713]

This would be a huge qol for me personally so I'm all for it . . .

[Fueki.4753]

Just give players the choice between all dailies and weeklies from all modes, instead of restricting them to less than a handful due to an arbitrary choice from a previous day.

I want to choose my dailies on the day I do them and see what I choose from, rather than the blind choice that we are forced into now.

In short: Give us back the previous dailies system.

[Nash.2681]

I like this idea. Since its introduction, I run a mix of PvE and WvW, which works pretty well for dailies. For weeklies however, I'd rather stick to PvE only to avoid such "fun" choices like "escort 10 dolyaks and try to not fall asleep" or "capture/defend x objectives in EotM while not dying of boredom", "have fun with griefers in the Obsidian Sanctum JP" etc.

[Luthan.5236]

I actually would like this. Used to do the old PvP dailies to finish my 3/3 to get the daily chest. And afaik they now have introduced reward track progress to the PvP vault tasks. (With likely potions being back in the future - according to that recent news update.)

Doing PvP for the full weak though ... could be annoying. Especially if the weekly requires one thing with a lot of wins and you might just want to do PvP every now and then. Being able to set my weekly to full PvE and maybe the daily full PvP - I would prefer that actually. Without having to switch manually a lot.

Ideally though I'd prefer to have a full set for each game mode again. With WvW/PvP always rewarding the reward track progress but the daily astral acclaim limited to the first 4 you complete + the 5 from daily login. Meaning  You could still do more - from the PvE/PvP to get the reward track progress.

Might work if they tied the reward track progress (or maybe later potions again) directly to the small chest (where now the AP is) - with the daliy 5/10/10/10/10 being tied to steps/tiers (like actually in the PvP/WvW reward tracks where there are small chests) ... then the bar just being full with the last chest at the end for the additional 20.

[notebene.3190]

For me, what would solve the problem (confusion and sadness notwithstanding), is to make it so there is no division of the pools of choices between PvE/WvW/PvP.

Currently, there is a limit to doing 8 weeklies and 5 dailies (4 if you don't count 'login'). Keep those limits. But then instead of 4 dailies to do, there's (I'm assuming) 12 choices. Instead of 8 options for weekly, there is (presumably) 24. Then you mix and match, but not 'forced' to do the ones you are offered in the current configuration when you pick multiple. Maybe I want to do 1 WvW weekly and 7 PvEs. Next week I do 5 WvW and 3 PvEs. All the while, I'm picking from each pool the ones I want to make up my 5 and my 8.

[Nash.2681]

4 minutes ago, notebene.3190 said:

For me, what would solve the problem (confusion and sadness notwithstanding), is to make it so there is no division of the pools of choices between PvE/WvW/PvP.

Currently, there is a limit to doing 8 weeklies and 5 dailies (4 if you don't count 'login'). Keep those limits. But then instead of 4 dailies to do, there's (I'm assuming) 12 choices. Instead of 8 options for weekly, there is (presumably) 24. Then you mix and match, but not 'forced' to do the ones you are offered in the current configuration when you pick multiple. Maybe I want to do 1 WvW weekly and 7 PvEs. Next week I do 5 WvW and 3 PvEs. All the while, I'm picking from each pool the ones I want to make up my 5 and my 8.

That would be pretty close to the old system, but within the new reward sturcture. They just have to add  a counter in the background to track the number of completed daily/weekly achievements. Once you hit 4 dailies / 8 weeklies you won't get any more AA to keep the current reward structure intact. Would be a huge improvement imo.

[DeanBB.4268]

17 hours ago, Natta.8905 said:

As the title says. It would be nice if Weekly and Daily Vault Preferences got separate so that if one wanted Daily with PvE only and Weekly as Only PvP then one would not have to switch alot.

Can't you just set your preference to PvP prior to reset, then set it back to PvE afterwards?

[Lucy.3728]

11 hours ago, Fueki.4753 said:

Just give players the choice between all dailies and weeklies from all modes

Like it was before.

I used to play more pve because of it.

Now I had to choose wvw because I play that mode often and the daily/weekly are often very easy (just playing like usual).

But tbh I would like to get some pve tasks and spend more time there again. But without a motivation I wouldn't do that.

I'd even like a monthly which includes to explore 1-2 pve maps (I'm such a lazy explorer and I really need a gift of exploration but can't motivate myself to keep going 😛)

[Gop.8713]

2 hours ago, DeanBB.4268 said:

Can't you just set your preference to PvP prior to reset, then set it back to PvE afterwards?

This is what the suggestion would avoid. As it is, you have to remember to change your preferences every Sunday night, a seven and a half hour window when some ppls might not even log on . . .

It's a qol request, not a new feature request. It works as is, it's just inconvenient, or at least less convenient than it could be . . .

Edited May 16 by Gop.8713

[Sobx.1758]

1 hour ago, Lucy.3728 said:

I used to play more pve because of it.

I'd say running on a mount to press f on a chest while not allowing any mob to as much as touch you for the "daily x minidungeon" or doing the same with a vista doesn't even exactly qualify for "playing pve" and I'm convinced majority of people claiming "with old dailies they at least played pve from time to time!" did exactly that. Which is further supported by the mentions of ~"now I'm just picking x because it's on average faster/easier".

1 hour ago, Lucy.3728 said:

But tbh I would like to get some pve tasks and spend more time there again. But without a motivation I wouldn't do that.

You can pick pve+wvw if "playing pve too" is indeed your goal instead of "picking the easiest daily from the pack". I mean, current pve tasks are also rather easy and a lot of the time are limited to areas or mob type more than anything particular, but it mostly does require you to play pve content a bit instead of just rushing through mobs to press f and be done in 10 seconds. I think this is better.

[Lucy.3728]

On 5/16/2024 at 9:18 PM, Sobx.1758 said:

I'd say running on a mount to press f on a chest while not allowing any mob to as much as touch you for the "daily x minidungeon" or doing the same with a vista doesn't even exactly qualify for "playing pve"

I participated in the Dragon Stand meta when the events on this map were daily. Played to the end. Aside from the unskippable brutal suicide sequence at the end, I like it, enjoy doing it. I do it when I get HP for my alts. Same with Tarir meta.

I don't remember what daily it was that led me to Dry Top, I think some gathering. But I timed it with the skritt queen and often helped with the giant to pass the time.

And when the right vista was daily, I often combined it with Tequatl. I haven't done that dragon since.

I participated in the Silver Wastes meta, but I don't remember what motivated me to go there.

Once I get lured to a map, I can easily get distracted and do more or different things :s

On 5/16/2024 at 9:18 PM, Sobx.1758 said:

You can pick pve+wvw if "playing pve too" is indeed your goal instead of "picking the easiest daily from the pack".

Hell no. The one time I did that I got a heart as task. And one of the two things I totally, absolutely loathe in this game is doing map hearts. They're the reason I have so much trouble doing exploring.

[costepj.5120]

Some map hearts can be completed in seconds. My go to is Dwayna in Siren's Landing (fly through four pollution clouds on a skyscale) but there are plenty of other trivial ones.

[Cuks.8241]

Would like that also. Or better just leave all options unlocked so I dont have to choose in advance and then dont feel like playing the mode I picked.

Pve weeklies are kinda interesting and actually funnel me into some pve activities I otherwise rarely play anymore. Weekly fractal or strike usually I will stick for full daily/weekly clears. But otherwise I mostly play spvp and wvw which I prefer for daily play and pve dailies are just mindless.

[Sobx.1758]

3 hours ago, Lucy.3728 said:

I like it, enjoy doing it. I do it when I get HP for my alts. Same with Tarir meta.

So if you are doing it anyways, I'm not sure what point you were making there.

3 hours ago, Lucy.3728 said:

And when the right vista was daily, I often combined it with Tequatl. I haven't done that dragon since.

Yes, you totally need the game to tell you to "press f on a vista" in order for you to get on the map at the correct hour and do the whole tequatl event. Honestly, how is that supposed to make any sense?

One way or another: if you need the game to tell you to go somewhere for you to play pve content and -according to what you said- you want to play more pve... then set your objectives to wvw/pve and you have what you wanted. Or what you claim you wanted.

3 hours ago, Lucy.3728 said:

Hell no. The one time I did that I got a heart as task. And one of the two things I totally, absolutely loathe in this game is doing map hearts. They're the reason I have so much trouble doing exploring.

Yeah, you go to a map "to press f on a vista" and "end up doing tequatl [which requires you to be there at the perfect time]", you go -probably- foraging in the dry top garden and you get distracted by 5 different events barely anyone does. But completing one heart?! OH NO. Again, how does that make any sense? Even moreso after you wrote this:

On 5/16/2024 at 7:20 PM, Lucy.3728 said:

I'd even like a monthly which includes to explore 1-2 pve maps (I'm such a lazy explorer and I really need a gift of exploration but can't motivate myself to keep going 😛)

Complete 1-2 pve maps a month is ok, but complete 1 heart every few days -or maybe weeks, who knows- is too much?
...and that's not even considering you don't need to complete all dailies anyways.

 

Overally your latest post in this thread is a bit hard to believe, considering the things you wrote in the previous ones, including "Now I had to choose wvw because(...) the daily/weekly are often very easy" on top of everything mentioned above.

Edited May 18 by Sobx.1758

[Lupini.6938]

I like the current reward system better.  Being able to select what I want instead of getting luck or more xp tomes is a relief.

But the options for dailies and weeklies needs to be more at the discretion of the player.  Especially since we are getting so many dailies in the SOTO areas.  I'm tired of daily rifts ( I don't know about others, but my daily for rifts doesn't complete outside of the SOTO zones).  I mean, how much more difficult is a rift than a mini-dungeon...

The game generates the lists for each of the modes.  Just combine the lists and let us pick.  They say "Play as you want" and then keep putting us in boxes.

[Futa.4375]

On 5/16/2024 at 7:24 AM, Fueki.4753 said:

Just give players the choice between all dailies and weeklies from all modes, instead of restricting them to less than a handful due to an arbitrary choice from a previous day.

This. I'm mostly a PvE player but I ended up spending hours upon hours in WvW after doing some dailies there when I felt like it. I haven't set foot at all in WvW or PvP since the change. And I play a lot less, way to go ANet.

[Randulf.7614]

33 minutes ago, Futa.4375 said:

This. I'm mostly a PvE player but I ended up spending hours upon hours in WvW after doing some dailies there when I felt like it. I haven't set foot at all in WvW or PvP since the change. And I play a lot less, way to go ANet.

Same. The vault never needed mode segregation

[Gehenna.3625]

On 5/16/2024 at 7:24 AM, Fueki.4753 said:

Just give players the choice between all dailies and weeklies from all modes, instead of restricting them to less than a handful due to an arbitrary choice from a previous day.

This would be a good idea, however, Anet clearly wants to limit the amount of acclaim you get so you should stop getting acclaim after a certain amount.

On 5/16/2024 at 7:24 AM, Fueki.4753 said:

I want to choose my dailies on the day I do them and see what I choose from, rather than the blind choice that we are forced into now.

That would be resolved with your above suggestion.

On 5/16/2024 at 7:24 AM, Fueki.4753 said:

In short: Give us back the previous dailies system.

No, that's not the same as your suggestion and I wouldn't want to go back to the previous system. The WV imo is an upgrade from the previous system, however, it can use a few tweaks, and this would be one of them. The idea that you know/plan ahead of time what you want to do, doesn't work for everyone.

So, I'm for this tweak but Anet will want to limit it to 5 activities that you can get acclaim for and I think it's 7 for the weekly, which seems fair enough. They can set the limit and we can pick freely. I see no downsides to this other than that the lists get a bit long but you can use a filter for that if it does bother people.

[Randulf.7614]

Exactly. Instead of setting your preferred mode, you can set it as a filter instead. And then have a cap on daily AA

[Fueki.4753]

2 hours ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

Anet clearly wants to limit the amount of acclaim you get so you should stop getting acclaim after a certain amount.

Then they could simply put a limit on how much a currency player can gain from dailies and weeklies. That would have been a much cleaner solution that arbitrarily take away the choice we had before.

Merely being allowed to choose a game mode on a day before is in no way comparable to being able to choose from a list of twelve dailies on the day one wants to do dailies.

In regards to freedom of choice, the current dailies system is objectively a whole staircase down from the previous system.

Edited May 19 by Fueki.4753

[Dark Red Killian.3946]

This would be nice, I agree. A workaround is that on Sunday night before the weekly reset, change to pvp. Once Monday comes, your weeklies are pvp only, then you can change your preferences back to PVE or whatever you want it to be. 

[Gop.8713]

Even after posting in this thread this week I sure enough forgot to reset my dailies back to pvp/wvw after swapping to pve for weeklies last night ; p

Better than the other way around I guess, but still annoying . . .