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Hope the devs get good feedback about WvW restructuring.

Here my take as ex-Desolation and now Melandru's Dome:

- The Desolation community is practically gone. Not really a user-friendly approach for a multi-player game.

- Guild size of 500 wasn't enough to keep the Desolation community together.

- Melandru's Dome more or less permanently outnumbered, so no fun to play. Balance issue. We had less than half the score as out matched opponent groups.

- Roaming more difficult, because of the high emphasis of very active, well organized groups. Where is the place for a player who does take part in organized voice groups, but also plays casually and/or as a roamer?

- General impression: The new system cannot match groups AND different playstyles well. In its current state, the new system threatens to alienate certain groups of WvW players.

Maybe others can report feedback, too. In case the devs read this, I hope we can provide feedback in a way which they can verify by reading logs, etc.

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Drastically seconded. There's no fun to WvW anymore. The commanders that I knew are now all on different teams and the former-server mega-guilds don't offer the same security. If a guild leader doesn't like you? Boom, you're gone. The entire community you were playing with is gone.

Not to mention that casual play is effectively dead now. There's not a way to play solo roam or even smaller group roaming anymore, and thanks to the upcoming points changes any off-peak play is further penalized.

This was a good intentioned and horribly implemented idea, and I hope they get rid of it soon.

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well that was whole point of this, to kill old names and replace with new one...nothing else is done here, one day job...u have separate excel table to change wvw server instead of login excel table to select world. idk why they replace old server names, just to call it new feature?
What is alliance, ppl/guilds were switching servers before, some do it every week...how is this different, now its easier to switch server?
Is now guild, owner of the server or its anet,50ppl can go afk on strongest server and they cant login...which will be the case, as it is when u have big guilds que become unplayable. It is pretty simple problem, to give some purpose to guilds and anet destroy complete game to make something...same, but with different names, against mmo-rpg philosophy. Suddenly Wvw should be like job you had to apply your cv to guild leader so if he accept you can play on that server, they will select role and type of play you must play...I don't get it, instead of creating some separate competitions, war events...they waste time with changing server names. Why was this taking years...implementing blabla,if they keep old server names it would be same as it was...idk

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2 hours ago, Shadowsrb.6241 said:

well that was whole point of this, to kill old names and replace with new one...nothing else is done here, one day job...u have separate excel table to change wvw server instead of login excel table to select world. idk why they replace old server names, just to call it new feature?

idk because they changed the underlaying system? 

But granted if you weren't just joking and that was the case then all the complaints on the forums about WR would be absolutely hilarious. 

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On 7/13/2024 at 4:10 PM, Chaba.5410 said:

I still don't understand the idea of not joining your favorite commander's guild.

Because  there are loads of us, who, as massive introverts / austisitc, almost vomit at the concept of being officialyl in a group.  HOnestly makes mes sick to the stomach. Have no fav comms anyway, prefer wandering with randoms. 

 

Amazingly, not everyone is like you nor wants what you want. 

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On 7/12/2024 at 10:10 PM, SheepSeesYou.4690 said:

This was a good intentioned and horribly implemented idea, and I hope they get rid of it soon.

I Agree but they will not do it soon, they need time to understand all the errors and what they got instead, many posts here during Betas showed them all the problems that we see now, but they ignored and closed all those threads, it's ok, they can do it those are the rules, but doing this do not solve the problem sadly, let's hope for the best.

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On 7/18/2024 at 4:03 PM, Shadowsrb.6241 said:

well that was whole point of this, to kill old names and replace with new one...nothing else is done here, one day job...u have separate excel table to change wvw server instead of login excel table to select world. idk why they replace old server names, just to call it new feature?
What is alliance, ppl/guilds were switching servers before, some do it every week...how is this different, now its easier to switch server?
Is now guild, owner of the server or its anet,50ppl can go afk on strongest server and they cant login...which will be the case, as it is when u have big guilds que become unplayable. It is pretty simple problem, to give some purpose to guilds and anet destroy complete game to make something...same, but with different names, against mmo-rpg philosophy. Suddenly Wvw should be like job you had to apply your cv to guild leader so if he accept you can play on that server, they will select role and type of play you must play...I don't get it, instead of creating some separate competitions, war events...they waste time with changing server names. Why was this taking years...implementing blabla,if they keep old server names it would be same as it was...idk

Actually the old Server system still exists, they just added a new layer (full of problems) in top of them, now you need a guild to play and they can fix the rules (toxic or not, but mainly quite elitist and toxic, this is the dark side of this system), if you agree ok, you can stay on that server if you don't you are on your own and good luck, you will be scattered somewhere, for example if you want to play in an NA new server and you are from EU, you must pay for a Old server switch to go NA and only then find a proper guild to change server and it will maybe happen after some times, if you don't find a good guild there there is no way for you to go where the good guilds are, it's just rng now, a mess...

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