If warrior's spear was bloated, what's guard's spear? 💀

[MedievalThings.5417]

1 hour ago, Melumi.6432 said:

When the kitten are they nerfing Willbender? Boon spam, blink spam, ridiculous damage. The balance team at the moment is a complete joke.
 

The 2 people doing balance are playing guardian...and I'm not just making a meme.

[Hotride.2187]

https://i.imgur.com/8ol9sm0.png

This is fine 3 WBs and a holo on opponent team with SPB support, premade. There was much blendering. Though they were all hammer WBs so not really that much on topic.

Edited September 19 by Hotride.2187

[Supernova Starr.2069]

3 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said:

I wonder if you can bully a willbender on engie with like... scrapper.

Personally, I find holos annoying and since they appear once a year, it's hard to tell how to fight them intuitive

[Saiyan.1704]

3 hours ago, bethekey.8314 said:

Saiyan Engi vs me WB 🙂

Ew I forgot you were an engi main... you have bigger things to worry about than Guardian rn lol

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

15 minutes ago, Saiyan.1704 said:

Ew I forgot you were an engi main... you have bigger things to worry about than Guardian rn lol

This is what I was saying before. 

If youre gonna balance wb as it is, you have to find the standard of balance quick or else you're going to have players making comparisons with specs that have obvious problems or that get more aggressively balanced with no counterargument to be made. 

Edited September 19 by Azure The Heartless.3261

[Shagie.7612]

fortunately 100% of willbender players are absolute dummies who don't know the meaning of spacing out their mobility so you can kite them lol

[bethekey.8314]

3 hours ago, Supernova Starr.2069 said:

Personally, I find holos annoying and since they appear once a year, it's hard to tell how to fight them intuitive

1 hour ago, Saiyan.1704 said:

Ew I forgot you were an engi main... you have bigger things to worry about than Guardian rn lol

🥲 https://imgflip.com/i/942fs2

I'll just be in my corner.

[Supernova Starr.2069]

59 minutes ago, bethekey.8314 said:

🥲 https://imgflip.com/i/942fs2

I'll just be in my corner.

Lol honestly, I said annoying to fight not OP/broken xd

[Hotride.2187]

9 hours ago, Shagie.7612 said:

fortunately 100% of willbender players are absolute dummies who don't know the meaning of spacing out their mobility so you can kite them lol

There are few smart/good ones... I say make power herald great again, so they can go back to their main.

[Flowki.7194]

13 hours ago, Hotride.2187 said:

There are few smart/good ones... I say make power herald great again, so they can go back to their main.

WB reminds me of modern feminism, desiring the power of the Herald role, but side stepping the danger, and accountability that comes with it.

 

Imagine giving out forum bans for heraldsplaining.

[Zekent.3652]

23 hours ago, Flowki.7194 said:

WB reminds me of modern feminism

This post derailed so bad💀

[HardStuckBronze.2439]

@Flowki.7194 make Herald great again 

 

Spammable phase traversal, quickness on impossible odds.

 

For good measure every shiro skill should give resolution, fury, might, swiftness, aegis, resistance and protection. Just to make it inline with willbender. Since that’s a balance spec as the guard mains have pointed out. 

Edited September 22 by HardStuckBronze.2439

[Last Crab.6054]

On 9/16/2024 at 2:02 AM, Zekent.3652 said:

Heal, more boons on boon heavy class, CC, mobility, cleave, burst, heal on auto, dmg boost, 4s weakness spam + 5 seconds resolution on a skill with 2 charges and just 8 seconds cooldown, and condi cleanse.

Yeah, not a bloated weapon.

What could go wrong? not like people is spamming willbender in the new game mode, right? not like WvW willbender was strong anyways.

consequences of your forum posts are coming back to haunt you 'My Dude"

[Zekent.3652]

56 minutes ago, Last Crab.6054 said:

consequences of your forum posts are coming back to haunt you 'My Dude"

What are you talking about?

[Flowki.7194]

14 hours ago, HardStuckBronze.2439 said:

@Flowki.7194 make Herald great again 

 

Spammable phase traversal, quickness on impossible odds.

 

For good measure every shiro skill should give resolution, fury, might, swiftness, aegis, resistance and protection. Just to make it inline with willbender. Since that’s a balance spec as the guard mains have pointed out. 

Yes because WB is squishy <hold straight face>, it can be proved by the average WB, porting into a 3v1 and dying.

 

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The average herald dies from fall damage leaving spawn

 

Edited September 22 by Flowki.7194

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

19 hours ago, Zekent.3652 said:

This post derailed so bad💀

I mean... The PvP forums remind me of it too so...

[HardStuckBronze.2439]

https://imgur.com/a/2FTqhGV
 

Average spear-bender damage unless they forget to bring a support and it’s a shut out. Then I’d say it’s only 600k but still typically 40%+ of team dps on this very balanced class. 
 

Nearly 1/4 of the game damage seems a bit much as well. I would say this is very typical. 

Edited September 22 by HardStuckBronze.2439

[MercurialKuroSludge.8974]

20 hours ago, Zekent.3652 said:

This post derailed so bad💀

Next thing you know, Lithril is gonna drop in and call everyone "filthy Gen Zers"
:P

[MercurialKuroSludge.8974]

Discounting the Guard spear current numbers/balance.
Its got a needlessly gimmicky thing tied to it in the form of "Luminance", creating base AND empowered skills, which is just not a good thing for balance.
Spear 2 had and still has issues.
Guardian also kind of alrdy has a Teamfight Weapon (GS) and Support Weapons (Staff/XShield), while this Weapon is sitting in between.

Id rather they remove Luminance, bring the Empowered effects to the base skills, and tone the Empowered effects down to 50-70% efficiency, drop Spear 4 15-20% dmg and shave some CDs, then adjust Spear over time.
Also, Spear is impacting DH LB in PvE becuz it has long CD in exchange for burst, but not able to replace GS, its kinda sad that DH cant even use its own ESpec wep for max dmg anymore.

Edited September 22 by MercurialKuroSludge.8974

[Flowki.7194]

46 minutes ago, HardStuckBronze.2439 said:

https://imgur.com/a/2FTqhGV
 

Average spear-bender damage unless they forget to bring a support and it’s a shut out. Then I’d say it’s only 600k but still typically 40%+ of team dps on this very balanced class. 
 

Nearly 1/4 of the game damage seems a bit much as well. I would say this is very typical. 

Worse than that. WB is suppose to be a paper thin jump spec.. so that is 40% "spike damage", and virt is not miles behind in breaking the norm of its role. There are no current specs that can fill that role with that kind of reliable jump damage. Thats the problem.. WB/virt are beyound foolproof damage application, and ANet just gave them MORE. The basically have the perks of jump specs, withought the paper thin downsides, which essentially pushes their staying power into group fight spec territory.

Edited September 22 by Flowki.7194

[ArthurDent.9538]

1 hour ago, HardStuckBronze.2439 said:

https://imgur.com/a/2FTqhGV
 

Average spear-bender damage unless they forget to bring a support and it’s a shut out. Then I’d say it’s only 600k but still typically 40%+ of team dps on this very balanced class. 
 

Nearly 1/4 of the game damage seems a bit much as well. I would say this is very typical. 

Can we take a moment to appreciate that all of that damage only resulted in 3 kills.

[HardStuckBronze.2439]

1 hour ago, ArthurDent.9538 said:

Can we take a moment to appreciate that all of that damage only resulted in 3 kills.

To be fair that kind of damage is only made possible by the enemy team having 2 supports. Anything less and they down before you finish your burst. 
 

But what is kind of crazy is being about 50% of the team damage + nearly 25% of the entire game damage. And this is not an uncommon occurrence. I’d say it’s rare to be less than 500k and 35%+ in any given game unless it’s a shutout. 
 

The main problem with willbender is that I can routinely do this insane burst every 25 sec and after it’s finished still have 4-6 movement skills off cd to gtfo or chase and finish off whoever is still standing. 

Edited September 22 by HardStuckBronze.2439

[arazoth.7290]

19 hours ago, HardStuckBronze.2439 said:

@Flowki.7194 make Herald great again 

 

Spammable phase traversal, quickness on impossible odds.

 

For good measure every shiro skill should give resolution, fury, might, swiftness, aegis, resistance and protection. Just to make it inline with willbender. Since that’s a balance spec as the guard mains have pointed out. 

Big lifesteal damage ontop of this all, we still need resustain while staying offensive too!

[arazoth.7290]

4 hours ago, Flowki.7194 said:

Yes because WB is squishy <hold straight face>, it can be proved by the average WB, porting into a 3v1 and dying.

 

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[arazoth.7290]

3 hours ago, HardStuckBronze.2439 said:

https://imgur.com/a/2FTqhGV
 

Average spear-bender damage unless they forget to bring a support and it’s a shut out. Then I’d say it’s only 600k but still typically 40%+ of team dps on this very balanced class. 
 

Nearly 1/4 of the game damage seems a bit much as well. I would say this is very typical. 

that much damage only for 3 kills okeee.

I can do better with support rev😉