JustDemons.4358 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 so i just wanted to ask if this trait soul marks is bugged or are there superior blocks in this game that dont count as "nomral" blocks? because my marks still getting blocked all the time right now with the trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustDemons.4358 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 no one experiences the same or has answers? xD btw i posted it in wvw and not in the necro forums because its irrelevant in pve ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I've noticed this too and I just live with it. I frequently get the "blocked" message whether I drop marks right on top of people, or leave them on the ground where they are triggered later. People rarely mention this so it must be intended in some sort of way. Would be nice if Anet commented on this and if it's unintended and if it's easy fix, please address it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X T D.6458 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Are you sure they are being blocked, and not just evaded/dodged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustDemons.4358 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @"DeadlySynz.3471" said:I've noticed this too and I just live with it. I frequently get the "blocked" message whether I drop marks right on top of people, or leave them on the ground where they are triggered later. People rarely mention this so it must be intended in some sort of way. Would be nice if Anet commented on this and if it's unintended and if it's easy fix, please address iti mean yea, either they should be blcokable or unblockable so i have to assume its a bug... it wouldn be the first time necro has bugss.. i just recall retaliation not working on a skill or this in and out of shroud where u entered and immediatly went out of shorud (now we have a 1 sec cd on shroud).@"X T D.6458" said:Are you sure they are being blocked, and not just evaded/dodged?yo i just checked again the block "symbol" is shown and it is clearly distinguishable from evades and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X T D.6458 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Hmm I'll watch out for it next time I am in wvw on my necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodOfDeath.5247 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I've had this happen as well and thought it was just because I'm an extremely bad necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xihorus.2804 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 It's possible that the mark triggered on someone using a skill that grants Invulnerability...? Most common example would be the Guardian elite Renewed Focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwelgm.4315 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Guys, I didn't test this out, but it's very clearly easy to see whether or not something has been blocked, or the person is invulnerable. Also this is pretty much breaking the trait if marks cannot be unblockable with it, because the very point is to get life force from the marks actually hitting your target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy.6029 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 This happens when you drop a mark or a mark is triggered and/or more than 5 people. It will select 5 ( not sure how) then anyone with a block boon up after that will show the message you are getting. I've never seen it on less than 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwelgm.4315 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 @Crazy.6029 said:This happens when you drop a mark or a mark is triggered and/or more than 5 people. It will select 5 ( not sure how) then anyone with a block boon up after that will show the message you are getting. I've never seen it on less than 5.I thought marks were already limited to 5 targets? This honestly never happened to me before and I always used soul marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Also noticing this, engineer's tool kit 4 seems to block marks often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It's probably secondary attacks procing from mark strikes that are being blocked.Sigils would be the first thing that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustDemons.4358 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 @Crazy.6029 said:This happens when you drop a mark or a mark is triggered and/or more than 5 people. It will select 5 ( not sure how) then anyone with a block boon up after that will show the message you are getting. I've never seen it on less than 5.i thought of that myself already. but still i think i saw like ~6ppl getting hit and 3 of em showed the block msg. have to watch out more for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 @Justine.6351 said:It's probably secondary attacks procing from mark strikes that are being blocked.Sigils would be the first thing that comes to mind.^^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustDemons.4358 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 @Cynz.9437 said:@Justine.6351 said:It's probably secondary attacks procing from mark strikes that are being blocked.Sigils would be the first thing that comes to mind.^^thisoh now i understand it actually. yea this could be xD. well im using air and fire runes and then necros have there procs on crit etc..... kk xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I've seen the blocked message get triggered off of 1 person only; I've actually dropped a trailer of marks and watch 1 player run through them with "block block block". So the trait at times doesn't seem to be working right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I'm not running any on proc sigils or traits, so it isn't secondary effects getting blocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galmac.4680 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 You have enabled that in your build? Soul Reaping, minor trait "Soul marks"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 @Justine.6351 said:It's probably secondary attacks procing from mark strikes that are being blocked.Sigils would be the first thing that comes to mind.this or the blast from mark 4 prob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan.3472 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 unblockable means it will bypass every ennemy skills that have a "block" component like the #5 from guardian focus or aegis and such powers. Although it will not bypass invulnerability component skills powers like signet of stone or warrior invulnerability stance or engineer potion.For instance unblockable attacks from warrior signet and ranger works exactly the same way.Invulnerability is an upgraded block and it can not be bypass.The thief DD block is really a block not an invulnerability and it can be bypassed by unblockable component skills.When your unblockable Attack bypass a block defense it will hit, although hitting an invulnerable target it will say either invulnerable or block.When an Attack is blocked it won't apply its conditions nor effects nor damage.Invulnerable>blockTest for yourself in unranked pvp arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcaedus.7290 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just a quick anecdote: about 3 weeks ago, I noticed that I blocked a mark I ran over. While it's possible that the necro didn't have soul marks traited, I doubt otherwise. Pretty much 100% of staff necros have soulmarks traited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The Mark deals its damage even if the blocked message shows up. It's the secondary effect like a damaging sigil or a proc like Chill of Death or Chilling Nova that is then blocked afterwards as it is not part of the unblockable Mark. If you interrupt a block with Mark 5 you should never see the blocked message. This of course does only work if you target has no stability (which negates the interrupt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightSoul.9048 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just a silly idea: Why don't you bother going into your guild arena with a friend and try to figure out whats happening? Unequip all your clothes (to rule out runes) buy a white lv1 staff in one of the main cities (for a few copper, to rule out "on crit procs") and make sure you have the trait while testing it on different blocking abilities with a friend.I haven't played necro for a while but a friend plays pretty much exclusively necro and I haven't heard him complain, so I would assume that there is no bug.(He would've complained... he always complains!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Yes, I had soul marks enabled. No, I'm not running any proc traits, sigils, or runes that would cause this to occur. I haven't been able to recreate it, but there are times when the marks are randomly blocked. The most notable of which was an engineer using gear shield ran over all 4.This leads me to believe the game was checking for blocks and either didn't catch up in time to cross check for unblockable or that there is a bug. It seems to happen at random Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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