zoopop.5630 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 List what comp ya'll thinks is the best for a 4vs4 or 5vs5 team battle at mid during a Match in AT/Rank.lets discuss what works and what doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 -Holo (I know you don't think this one is stupid op from your previous posts because you're bad)-FB-Scourge-Burst mes/or even condi-spellbreaker, another scourge, or Druid.I would say thief but there are only like 10 max in game that play it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 -Holo-Fb-Scourge-Druid or SoulBeast-SoulReaper (power spec)is what i'll like to fuck around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.4021 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 druid doesnt add much to a fight when theres a firebrand already. i could think of 2 different comps without class stacking or you would just stack scourgesfirebrand, scourge, sd thief, holo, miragefirebrand, scourge, power reaper, hammer rev, mirage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 @Sonny.4021 said:druid doesnt add much to a fight when theres a firebrand already. i could think of 2 different comps without class stacking or you would just stack scourgesfirebrand, scourge, sd thief, holo, miragefirebrand, scourge, power reaper, hammer rev, mirage im thinking of someone who can go far and yolo shit out for majority of the fight. you'll be surprised how many people go far for a 3vs1 and don't even get the kill or even cap....however your right overall for team fight purposes but i think soul beast wouldn't be bad imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @JayAction.9056 said:-Holo (I know you don't think this one is stupid op from your previous posts because you're bad)-FB-Scourge-Burst mes/or even condi-spellbreaker, another scourge, or Druid.I would say thief but there are only like 10 max in game that play it good.Why would you consider druid part of a optimal 4v4/5v5? Druid has little value in a teamfight compared to other options. Druid shines at decapping and stalling offnode 1v1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.4021 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @zoopop.5630 said:@Sonny.4021 said:druid doesnt add much to a fight when theres a firebrand already. i could think of 2 different comps without class stacking or you would just stack scourgesfirebrand, scourge, sd thief, holo, miragefirebrand, scourge, power reaper, hammer rev, mirage im thinking of someone who can go far and yolo kitten out for majority of the fight. you'll be surprised how many people go far for a 3vs1 and don't even get the kill or even cap....however your right overall for team fight purposes but i think soul beast wouldn't be bad imo.that was for a team fight oriented comp... i thought that was the purpose of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @Sonny.4021 said:druid doesnt add much to a fight when theres a firebrand already. i could think of 2 different comps without class stacking or you would just stack scourgesfirebrand, scourge, sd thief, holo, miragefirebrand, scourge, power reaper, hammer rev, mirage You do realize that a power reaper loses all value if the other team fields a scourge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Double Firebrand // Double Scourge //HoloYolo Smith.That comp should never lose at mid fight unless a mes/thief burst comp actually downs some one.... but with 2 firebrands that shouldn't happen.. especially if that dream team stack on each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.4021 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:@Sonny.4021 said:druid doesnt add much to a fight when theres a firebrand already. i could think of 2 different comps without class stacking or you would just stack scourgesfirebrand, scourge, sd thief, holo, miragefirebrand, scourge, power reaper, hammer rev, mirage You do realize that a power reaper loses all value if the other team fields a scourge?as long as you make sure you're in range to get supported by both your scourge and firebrand, condis won't be killing you that easily. power reaper has a lot of boon hate and can do some sick bursts... running wells gives a lot of utility to the team, aswell as blood magic adds up quite a bit of damage to a team fight and can pull off a clutch res. at least in a team fight situation, i think power reaper can still offer a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @Sonny.4021 said:@Crinn.7864 said:@Sonny.4021 said:druid doesnt add much to a fight when theres a firebrand already. i could think of 2 different comps without class stacking or you would just stack scourgesfirebrand, scourge, sd thief, holo, miragefirebrand, scourge, power reaper, hammer rev, mirage You do realize that a power reaper loses all value if the other team fields a scourge?as long as you make sure you're in range to get supported by both your scourge and firebrand, condis won't be killing you that easily. power reaper has a lot of boon hate and can do some sick bursts... running wells gives a lot of utility to the team, aswell as blood magic adds up quite a bit of damage to a team fight and can pull off a clutch res. at least in a team fight situation, i think power reaper can still offer a lotThe problem is not the damage from condis, it's from the reaper being permanently debuffed. Almost every scourge skill applies cripple, and Reaper doesn't have teleports or leaps to remain functional while permanently crippled. Moreover Reaper only generates 3 boons: might, swiftness, and stability. Literally every corrupt the Scourge throws will be applying weakness because of this. A Reaper when put against a scourge will be totally ineffective.aswell as blood magic adds up quite a bit of damage to a team fight and can pull off a clutch res. at least in a team fight situation,Blood magic Scourge has better rez power than blood magic reaper, in addition to having better damage and team support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny.4021 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:The problem is not the damage from condis, it's from the reaper being permanently debuffed. Almost every scourge skill applies cripple, and Reaper doesn't have teleports or leaps to remain functional while permanently crippled. Moreover Reaper only generates 3 boons: might, swiftness, and stability. Literally every corrupt the Scourge throws will be applying weakness because of this. A Reaper when put against a scourge will be totally ineffective.If you stay together with your firebrand and scourge, they will be converting a lot of the condis into boons and you have a well that can convert condis into boons for you and your team... reaper shroud 2 is unaffected by cripple etc and its on a low cd. its not ideal, but its nowhere near as bad as you make it sound.Blood magic Scourge has better rez power than blood magic reaper, in addition to having better damage and team support.my suggestion was made supposing no class stacking allowed otherwise yes you would be better off stacking scourges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:@JayAction.9056 said:-Holo (I know you don't think this one is stupid op from your previous posts because you're bad)-FB-Scourge-Burst mes/or even condi-spellbreaker, another scourge, or Druid.I would say thief but there are only like 10 max in game that play it good.Why would you consider druid part of a optimal 4v4/5v5? Druid has little value in a teamfight compared to other options. Druid shines at decapping and stalling offnode 1v1s.Druid damage is pretty high for the amount of CC it brings, as well as team support, and it's own self sustain. In many cases just getting the long duration immob on someone at the right time sets up an easy kill for your teammates even if the Druid is not doing damage for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop.8106 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 At least 4 hammer guardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 scourges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.9387 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Double firebrand double scourge, maybe throw an sd thief in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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