Guizao.4167 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 They can be killed, but they have to be really bad. Not that they were already powerful, but now their most used pets are even stronger. It's very good to have a profession able to solo every kind of build and still have high mobility with stealth and superspeed. And it's really good to see how I can stack 25 stacks of Might, Fury, Protection on my pets so they can simply dispatch my opponents while I keep autoattacking on staff to fill my Celestial Avatar. It's also extremely nice to see how my beautiful pets can endure damage and conditions because they are resilient and it matters naught if I send my conditions to them! I'll heal them just like I heal myself!Thanks to the balance team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasdwer.3721 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 they only buffed the dmg of pets in beastmode (when a soulbeast merges with his pet)the buffs didnt had any effects on druid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 @Guizao.4167 said:They can be killed, but they have to be really bad. Not that they were already powerful, but now their most used pets are even stronger. It's very good to have a profession able to solo every kind of build and still have high mobility with stealth and superspeed. And it's really good to see how I can stack 25 stacks of Might, Fury, Protection on my pets so they can simply dispatch my opponents while I keep autoattacking on staff to fill my Celestial Avatar. It's also extremely nice to see how my beautiful pets can endure damage and conditions because they are resilient and it matters naught if I send my conditions to them! I'll heal them just like I heal myself!Thanks to the balance team!I think you need to learn to read a little better. The changes only affected Beastmode skills in Soulbeast. You're literally crying over nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shox.1586 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 hi guys how to perma root as druid?anyone knows?is that hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elxdark.9702 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 You're just jealous of the incredible amount of skill that takes to play druid in the current meta, reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekmatyar.8725 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 @Kasdwer.3721 said:they only buffed the dmg of pets in beastmode (when a soulbeast merges with his pet)the buffs didnt had any effects on druid What does it matter? Every other class that could push or compete for the role of druid has been nerfed, so they'll rise as side node holders and be a fucking annoyance there 24/7. The cycle of (life) PvP! Don't you guys enjoy some quality circlejerking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 @shadowpass.4236 said:@Guizao.4167 said:They can be killed, but they have to be really bad. Not that they were already powerful, but now their most used pets are even stronger. It's very good to have a profession able to solo every kind of build and still have high mobility with stealth and superspeed. And it's really good to see how I can stack 25 stacks of Might, Fury, Protection on my pets so they can simply dispatch my opponents while I keep autoattacking on staff to fill my Celestial Avatar. It's also extremely nice to see how my beautiful pets can endure damage and conditions because they are resilient and it matters naught if I send my conditions to them! I'll heal them just like I heal myself!Thanks to the balance team!I think you need to learn to read a little better. The changes only affected Beastmode skills in Soulbeast. You're literally crying over nothing.And still they're left untouched. Very good balance.@Elxdark.9702 said:You're just jealous of the incredible amount of skill that takes to play druid in the current meta, reported.Doesn't take as much skill to play an elementalist effectively. If you really think it takes an incredible amount of skill to play druid well you must be a slow learner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 soulbeast sniper > any druid build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippage.1983 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 They also have plenty of windows they're open for attack. Just don't attack them when you see the big red square under their boons.If you hit them when theyre open then they're forced to retreat off point to heal. At that point, it's pretty hard to kill them due to their insane sustain, but you can bully them off point and keep it capped, which is essentially winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Godlike.6098 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 The problem of druid is that it's a bunker and our forums always had problems with bunkers...any kind of basically...seen it for years.Forums don't accept any class than can't die easily in 1v1 and completely don't understand concept of contesting node.Truth is that people don't know what rotation is in conquest...and that rotations ,,kill" bunker builds. People can't except fact that you can do the same thing and block his close while he's contesting your close, just ignore him, +1 him with class that is made for +1...everything needs to always die whatever they do, no matter how s**ty their build is and on what skill level they are...if you have to do something that doesn't require to kill class/build to deal with it - it's not balanced in general standard of forum.I don't say druid hasn't so many ways to deal with pressure and outnumbers but realistically can druid below plat deal with:+1 of thief/mesmer?Be at least decaped by scourge in 1v1?Don't mess up something in 1v1 against spellbraker/holo and die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euthymias.7984 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @"Mr Godlike.6098" said:The problem of druid is that it's a bunker and our forums always had problems with bunkers...any kind of basically...seen it for years.Forums don't accept any class than can't die easily in 1v1 and completely don't understand concept of contesting node.Truth is that people don't know what rotation is in conquest...and that rotations ,,kill" bunker builds. People can't except fact that you can do the same thing and block his close while he's contesting your close, just ignore him, +1 him with class that is made for +1...everything needs to always die whatever they do, no matter how s**ty their build is and on what skill level they are...if you have to do something that doesn't require to kill class/build to deal with it - it's not balanced in general standard of forum.I don't say druid hasn't so many ways to deal with pressure and outnumbers but realistically can druid below plat deal with:+1 of thief/mesmer?Be at least decaped by scourge in 1v1?Don't mess up something in 1v1 against spellbraker/holo and die?This, all of this.Every time a druid sits on a node, I see two or three of my teammates waste time against it instead of trying to out-rotate the bunker itself and win teamfights and pressure the enemy's home node. People focus too much on what they can kill over what they can outplay. Even if you cant kill it, you can force the Druid to give up a cap or retreat, and much like any other side-node bunker, forcing them to leave is a win in itself.Does that mean that Druid still cant have some small shaves here and there? No, there's a number of things that could be done to make them more "fair". However, if you shave it, at least focus on Druid and not botch core ranger aspects in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 druid was buffed this patchbecause it was already one of the strongest classes, and everything else that was strong was nerfed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlater.6789 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Honestly it's just like @Euthymias.7984 said. You shouldn't contest a bunker on their node, it's one of the most basic rules in pvp. The only time it's ok to contest on a point against a bunker; is if its yours or if you can survive (not die) 1v2 on a neutral point.The reason they are a bunker is because they are specifically built to never die. Keep that in mind and use it to your advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard.2873 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Zlater.6789 said:Honestly it's just like @Euthymias.7984 said. You shouldn't contest a bunker on their node, it's one of the most basic rules in pvp. The only time it's ok to contest on a point against a bunker; is if its yours or if you can survive (not die) 1v2 on a neutral point.The reason they are a bunker is because they are specifically built to never die. Keep that in mind and use it to your advantage.Druid isn't a bunker, it is supposed to be a side-node bruiser. It has way too much damage (thanks to pets) to be a bunker. It has too much mobility to fit the general rules of a bunker.As a bruiser, it has too much team support (ressing, healing, giving boons). It wins every single 1v1, has way too many ways to reset, has too much damage to pressure anyone else, and too much mobilty to perform superior rotations. It is is literally exactly like old d/d ele, except on steroids. If this game still had serious tournaments, people would start trolling with 5x druid teams, because they would never die, would in every 1v1, and still have pretty good damage to win teamfights through steady pressure+sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 F1Staff 1234511111wep swapSword 12345F4wep swapStaff 1111111111CAStaff 12345wep swapSword 12345wep swapStaff 1111111111CA Toss some random dodges here and there, heal when you're below 50% hp, use signet of stone when you're at 25% hp.Congratz, you will survive against 99% builds with your eyes closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDDIE WRECKER.1375 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Guizao.4167 said:@shadowpass.4236 said:@Guizao.4167 said:They can be killed, but they have to be really bad. Not that they were already powerful, but now their most used pets are even stronger. It's very good to have a profession able to solo every kind of build and still have high mobility with stealth and superspeed. And it's really good to see how I can stack 25 stacks of Might, Fury, Protection on my pets so they can simply dispatch my opponents while I keep autoattacking on staff to fill my Celestial Avatar. It's also extremely nice to see how my beautiful pets can endure damage and conditions because they are resilient and it matters naught if I send my conditions to them! I'll heal them just like I heal myself!Thanks to the balance team!I think you need to learn to read a little better. The changes only affected Beastmode skills in Soulbeast. You're literally crying over nothing.And still they're left untouched. Very good balance.@Elxdark.9702 said:You're just jealous of the incredible amount of skill that takes to play druid in the current meta, reported.Doesn't take as much skill to play an elementalist effectively. If you really think it takes an incredible amount of skill to play druid well you must be a slow learner.That can read ... cough just sayin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Druid has been part of the meta and busted for years. People just don't complain about it as much because we have gotten used to it being broken. Patch after patch anet refuses to nerf Druid for pvp so we just sort of gave up and accepted that Druid is clearly the balance teams favorite class and will never be nerfed end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannir.4132 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Funny how people complain about druid now but actually nothing changed. Druids counters actually weren't nerfed as its 3 biggest counters pre-patch were holo, FA ele and thief, and they still are. Druid could dance around necros and mirages for days pre-patch and it still can. Druids are countered by heavy power burst, not condis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardenwolfe.8590 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 This is purely an observation, but every time I open a PvP thread, it's someone complaining and demanding a nerf for some other class. Trying to disguise that complaint as the person who is overpower is nothing new nor is it cute.Please quit coming to the forums every time you die in PvP. Yes, sometimes it's the class. But a lot more often? It's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Yannir.4132 said:Funny how people complain about druid now but actually nothing changed. Druids counters actually weren't nerfed as its 3 biggest counters pre-patch were holo, FA ele and thief, and they still are. Druid could dance around necros and mirages for days pre-patch and it still can. Druids are countered by heavy power burst, not condis. A druid that dies to holo is a very bad druid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malafaia.8903 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 So, it begins! hahahahhahhahaThis forum is infinite tears, no matter what the devs does.Can't deal with condis, kill the condi builds.Can't deal with sustain, kill sustain builds.Can't deal with CC + burst, OMG KILL THAT DAMN POWERCREEP BUILDS.It never ends ;)To the L2P train: CC lock + power burst = kill druids.Come on, spellbreakers, holosmiths, sword/dagger thieves... All counters, some got buffed in this patch.You don't want balance, you want a comfort zone where you can play like PvE.You're NEVER satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrener.1592 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Yannir.4132 said:Funny how people complain about druid now but actually nothing changed. Druids counters actually weren't nerfed as its 3 biggest counters pre-patch were holo, FA ele and thief, and they still are. Druid could dance around necros and mirages for days pre-patch and it still can. Druids are countered by heavy power burst, not condis. ???????????????????????????????????????????I swear i get dumber everytime i go on the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Godlike.6098 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @bluri.2653 said:@Yannir.4132 said:Funny how people complain about druid now but actually nothing changed. Druids counters actually weren't nerfed as its 3 biggest counters pre-patch were holo, FA ele and thief, and they still are. Druid could dance around necros and mirages for days pre-patch and it still can. Druids are countered by heavy power burst, not condis. ???????????????????????????????????????????I swear i get dumber everytime i go on the forumsCould you explain this guys some things? Literality forums live in different game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @Master Ketsu.4569 said:Druid has been part of the meta and busted for years. People just don't complain about it as much because we have gotten used to it being broken. Patch after patch anet refuses to nerf Druid for pvp so we just sort of gave up and accepted that Druid is clearly the balance teams favorite class and will never be nerfed end of story. Nope, druid is the easiest way for the balance team to avoid a full rework of ranger, as seen already, soulbeast can get easily outsustained by all meta specs when played correctly...it has the second least sustain out of all PoF/HoT elites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknocks.4935 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 As already said by few members problem is bad rotations, people don't understand that in the map exist THREE CAPS and not only mid and close, if they bunker close just go far, instead people yell why you went far idiot, and they are all 4 wasting time on close while the other 2 caps are hold by the enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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