EremiteAngel.9765 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I think we can all agree that the recent patch helped balance things a lot better.Is there currently any OP class/build that needs further tweaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 There is already enough drama ....lol adding ele and rev for what? PvP correctness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morwath.9817 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Ooo, Quaggan sees a poll, Quaggan gonna vote, even tho Quaggan is ill and had no opportunity to play yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperduperMLGbsns.9345 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Warrior. Most things at this class are okay but the duration of resistance combined with blocks is absurd. If you have to wait over 20 secs just to start some dmg then there is something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'll go for ranger solely because Riptide got nerfed. So if they're against self-sustain, why in the fuck did druid receive ZERO NERFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zintrothen.1056 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The mes. Dem bursts are a bit much in the extremely high for dat indefensible defensiveness. Druid might be a tad more OP, but mesmer is far harder to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley.5694 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Should have left the Revenant and Elementalist out. Everyone knows how weak they are compared to the other professions, only trolls will vote for them just as they have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kako.1930 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Razor.6392 said:I'll go for ranger solely because Riptide got nerfed. So if they're against self-sustain, why in the kitten did druid receive ZERO NERFS?I voted for mesmer but this is a good point. I think they're tied actually but for different reasons. Mesmers have too much burst with little to no risk and druids have so much survivability that no other profession can even begin to compete with them in that area. This is coming from a fresh weaver perspective though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Scourge is much more in line than before, but I still think their aoe is pure cancer. Some of the skills keep pulsing even in downed state. So nerf the goddamn AoE already and compensate them if you have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Both druid and mesmer seem to be overperforming right now, but they aren't as egregious as scourge/FB combo was. Power shatter has had the ability to one-shot people from stealth for some time now, at least now it seems to be getting attention.Also, FB support is still incredibly strong, despite the nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Thief the eternally meta class, the only class in the game that cannot be killed except by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:Thief the eternally meta class, the only class in the game that cannot be killed except by itself.Engineers tend to hold up quite well against thieves, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Vagrant.7206 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Thief the eternally meta class, the only class in the game that cannot be killed except by itself.Engineers tend to hold up quite well against thieves, thank you.Thief will not die to a engineer unless the thief does something stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahkeus.8243 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Ehh, the problem right now is less about one overly-dominant class and more that some classes are either overall under-performing or just without much variety in viable builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Thief the eternally meta class, the only class in the game that cannot be killed except by itself.Engineers tend to hold up quite well against thieves, thank you.Thief will not die to a engineer unless the thief does something stupid.A power thief generally needs incredible luck or reflexes to survive most encounters with me. Condi thief is a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Vagrant.7206 said:@Crinn.7864 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Thief the eternally meta class, the only class in the game that cannot be killed except by itself.Engineers tend to hold up quite well against thieves, thank you.Thief will not die to a engineer unless the thief does something stupid.A power thief generally needs incredible luck or reflexes to survive most encounters with me. Condi thief is a little different.Condi thief?Are we talking silver division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Crinn.7864 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Thief the eternally meta class, the only class in the game that cannot be killed except by itself.Engineers tend to hold up quite well against thieves, thank you.Thief will not die to a engineer unless the thief does something stupid.A power thief generally needs incredible luck or reflexes to survive most encounters with me. Condi thief is a little different.Condi thief?Are we talking silver division?Nope. Seen them in plat. Granted, they're rare, but they're there, and still effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kako.1930 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Genesis.5169 said:I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please.This is one angry mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Genesis.5169 said:I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please.Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target.PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Vagrant.7206 said:@Genesis.5169 said:I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please.Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target.PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles.No u haven't please stop lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Genesis.5169 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Genesis.5169 said:I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please.Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target.PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles.No u haven't please stop lying.That's not a lie. It's literally happened to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperadordf.2687 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Genesis.5169 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Genesis.5169 said:I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please.Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target.PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles.No u haven't please stop lying.Aren’t you the one who was saying Condi Mirage can’t even get 15+ confusions with 1 burst? Lol. And pre-patch, a perfect Axe/Torch burst could stack 28 confusion + 9 Torment + 12 Burn stacks.Please stop defending an overperforming class just because you main it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Imperadordf.2687 said:@Genesis.5169 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Genesis.5169 said:I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore.And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please.Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target.PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles.No u haven't please stop lying.Aren’t you the one who was saying Condi Mirage can’t even get 15+ confusions with 1 burst? Lol. And pre-patch, a perfect Axe/Torch burst could stack 28 confusion + 9 Torment + 12 Burn stacks.Please stop defending an overperforming class just because you main it.So let me get this straight.One guy says 26+ i call him a liar.You say 15+ an call me a liar.No where did i said we can't make it to 15 we can for 3 seconds blowing 3 very long cds and 6 clones.And, why are you bringing up pre patch like that matters? As we are post patch now and this conversation as far as i can tell is a post patch one.Yet more proof this isn't a fair a unbiased poll. It's just filled with people who don't know how to play against mesmers and in sight of that they refuse to l2p and cry for nerfs and make up stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 It's either Mesmer or Specifically Druid, regardless of how angry their mains may get at this being pointed out. I think Druid beats Mesmer out though. glass oneshot builds are easier to account for than bunkering a point so effectively you need a 3v1 to push them off.That being said, eh. It's better than it was last iteration, so I can deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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