Chilli.2976 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I know its very a unpopular map currently, but maybe with a few tweaks it could be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 It needs tweaks, such as to seperatebthe spawn areas, make taking orb not suicide etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Absofuckinglutelynot. PvP is already in the barely playable and boderline unenjoyable field, no need to tip the scales with another garbage map. I hate everything about that map and would rather not have Anet spend more resources on it either, but that's just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @witcher.3197 said:Absofuckinglutelynot. PvP is already in the barely playable and boderline unenjoyable field, no need to tip the scales with another garbage map. I hate everything about that map and would rather not have Anet spend more resources on it either, but that's just an opinion.Wow!!!!!! Such hate for this map. Worse than the old skyhammer? I find absolutely nothing wrong with Spirit Watch. I'd like to see it in ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I want to see it moved to ranked however they do need to fix how you can portal with the orb. Aside from that the orb should be either higher reward for it's risk, or lower risk for it's reward, right now it is just not worth running for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toron.4856 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 No no no pls no god no just no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @Aza.2105 said:@witcher.3197 said:Absofuckinglutelynot. PvP is already in the barely playable and boderline unenjoyable field, no need to tip the scales with another garbage map. I hate everything about that map and would rather not have Anet spend more resources on it either, but that's just an opinion.Wow!!!!!! Such hate for this map. Worse than the old skyhammer? I find absolutely nothing wrong with Spirit Watch. I'd like to see it in ranked.I actually liked the old skyhammer more than spiritwatch, I just didn't like that it was in ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I doubt it, then again we do have Skyhammer which is questionable so maybe there is a slight chance we'll see Spiritwatch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Posted March 15, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted March 15, 2018 The hope is that we'll get it there some day. But it's going to need changes before that happens. You would have the opportunity to see and give feedback in unranked before we pushed the map to ranked.It's on our backlog, but not something were likely to look at in the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm.3120 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Never ever add this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:The hope is that we'll get it there some day. But it's going to need changes before that happens. You would have the opportunity to see and give feedback in unranked before we pushed the map to ranked.It's on our backlog, but not something were likely to look at in the next few months.dont you dare add that map to rank, reworked or not lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:The hope is that we'll get it there some day. But it's going to need changes before that happens. You would have the opportunity to see and give feedback in unranked before we pushed the map to ranked.It's on our backlog, but not something were likely to look at in the next few months.Definitely cool to hear. I like the way spirit watch is designed. Its the only vertical designed conquest map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman.1532 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Worst map I have ever seen. Delete it and make a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare.1234 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 i would like see the orb scrapped and something unique based around the capture point spirits. like gaining a 30 second team buff when capturing a point from the enemy (excluding capping from neutral) .wolf granting 150 ferocity, bear granting 150 toughness and raven granting 150 precisionmaybe throw a 4th point in the middle where orb was for leopard that appears from stealth half way through the game to tip the tides a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:The hope is that we'll get it there some day. But it's going to need changes before that happens. You would have the opportunity to see and give feedback in unranked before we pushed the map to ranked.It's on our backlog, but not something were likely to look at in the next few months.Wait. This map is years old and still not considered ready for ranked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 @Malediktus.9250 said:Wait. This map is years old and still not considered ready for ranked?It was in ranked for a while, just got removed long ago and was never really revisited except for a change to the orb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladezero.9470 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Nope.This map is not competitive at all. Beyond repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 As of yet literally no one here who has both commented and is against it in ranked has yet to give a single reason why not. Yeah it has differences from the other maps like more verticality and the spawns are closer together, and orb running USED TO be massively imbalanced between the different classes. But different doesn't mean bad or non competitive, it just means a lot of people here are like a bunch of old cats with "change is the devil!" mentalities. If the map is imbalanced make an argument as to why so that it can be fixed rather than deeming every single new map released as unplayable because it is not just a re skin of forest. I personally only have one major concern being that the orb goes through mesmer portals, and a minor concern that outside of portaling the orb mechanic is too risky for what it gives and is best ignored unless the enemy team goes for it in which case you can smash them since they have a useless slow guy with the orb unless he drops it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithilwen.1529 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 No! absolutely Not! Spirit Watch is almost a TDM map and I definitely don't want to see it in ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten.2617 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Good map. Needs just some tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abazigal.3679 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 @"ArthurDent.9538" said:As of yet literally no one here who has both commented and is against it in ranked has yet to give a single reason why not. Yeah it has differences from the other maps like more verticality and the spawns are closer together, and orb running USED TO be massively imbalanced between the different classes. But different doesn't mean bad or non competitive, it just means a lot of people here are like a bunch of old cats with "change is the devil!" mentalities. If the map is imbalanced make an argument as to why so that it can be fixed rather than deeming every single new map released as unplayable because it is not just a re skin of forest. I personally only have one major concern being that the orb goes through mesmer portals, and a minor concern that outside of portaling the orb mechanic is too risky for what it gives and is best ignored unless the enemy team goes for it in which case you can smash them since they have a useless slow guy with the orb unless he drops it.This, but you know people argued back in time in order to have " easy gameplay " . Skyhammer change, khylo treb change and map simplified, Orb running out of ranked. People asked for maps where you simply fight and hold points. Unfortunately, these maps would have been good nowadays where you are forced to face scourge/spellbreaker/firebrand setups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light In The Darkness.1619480535 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 OH GOD PLEASE DON'T ! REMOVE THIS GARBAGE MAP ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The spirit mechanic is still rather wonky. Too wonky for ranked. It just doesn't feel right. It can be subject to many gimmicks, and few things are as annoying as losing one's skills.I would like to see some iterations of possible changes to the spirit mechanic until I can see one that I like for ranked. @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:The hope is that we'll get it there some day. But it's going to need changes before that happens. You would have the opportunity to see and give feedback in unranked before we pushed the map to ranked.It's on our backlog, but not something were likely to look at in the next few months.For example, I would replace having to hold onto the spirit with the spirit being a neutral untargetable NPC with no HP bar but having a nameplate.This NPC would 'tether' to the player who captures it with visual effect like the ones that go from you to your dream allies in Hearts and Minds, or the chains used to hold Rox and Braham in Tracking the Scientist. The spirit will then follow the player to whom it is tethered at the base player combat speed, while having a 360 radius aoe circle around it.If the tethered player leaves the circle or becomes invulnerable, the tether breaks and any player can interact with the spirit to tether again. Moving too fast or pushing the tethered player too far from the spirit would break the tether, so superspeed tricks would not work, and if someone goes too tanky, you can still push them, launch them or fear them away far enough so the tether breaks and still steal the spirit. And since invulnerability would outright break the tether, distortion tricks would not work. This way we are not making any player immune to anything or forcing them to a different set of skills, but the spirit can't still go faster than it should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyger.5429 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:The hope is that we'll get it there some day. But it's going to need changes before that happens. You would have the opportunity to see and give feedback in unranked before we pushed the map to ranked.It's on our backlog, but not something were likely to look at in the next few months.I know you guys are hard at work on improving PvP systems and I understand that but the rate of new maps being added to ranked is horrendously slow. You have a map here that could be ranked ready with a few tweaks. Do what needs to be done and get it ready to ship with the new desert map. More varied maps in ranked makes for fun and less stale gameplay in my opinion. Also it's been 10 seasons, it's time Anet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 its horrible enough when s....twatch pops up in unranked, it'd be nothing but rage fuel in ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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