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@Hyper Cutter.9376 said:

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:Put another way: even if ANet agrees with you today that the requirement is too onerous, it's going to be months before they change the acquisition method, probably longer.I feel like adding back the merchant that used to sell them is the work of a few minutes at most.

Because they should never have removed that kitten NPC to begin with, that way worked perfectly fine for literally years.

Lots has changed.

So, provide the merchant and add WvW back to map completion.

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@"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:Dear Anet,

pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.

Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.

Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.

fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.

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@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.

Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least some of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.

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@"Last Crysis.1934" said:Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

NO.They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE

I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.

Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.

Cause that's basically what you're asking for.Reward with no effort

Actually, they removed map comp from wvw because pvers used to flood the maps and not participate in wvw stuff... That aside, GoB is pretty easy to get, I agree

Actually they moved it because pvers cried and cried and cried about it.

There was more to it than that. It was literally impossible to get wvw map completion if you were stuck in a certain situation in wvw. At least every other item to get a legendary is possible through individual time and effort. But wvw map completion requires that your server actually own or take every part of wvw at some point. I was on ET back when ET/FC/SF were grouped forever, and SF always dominated and always owned their home keep in EB. The POI and vista in the green EB home keep were literally the only things keeping me from a leg for several months, and there was absolutely nothing I could do to get those items due to my server's position (other than pay a fee to transfer, which is not fair to make as a requirement for a leg and I wouldn't have done anyway). I could have done wvw 24/7 and never gotten those items. At one point many months later we ended up against GoM in green, and they very generously agreed to let ET take their EB keep just so the many of us who needed those items for WC could get them (I of course missed this window and had to wait 2 more months, but it was still a great gesture).

It wasn't just "crying" about it, it was because it was the only leg item that you couldn't get at all by individual effort and time.

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@Euryon.9248 said:

@"BlaqueFyre.5678" said:Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.

Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least
some
of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.

To be perfectly honest with ourselves, the term "legendary weapon" nowadays has little legendary feeling attached to it. I mean, anyone can buy a gen1 leggy with lots of farming in a short time, Gen2 legendaries can be pretty much bought (apart maybe from the 4 first ones)... Still, that being said, GoB should really be the least of someone's concern, as it is easily farmable with just easy wvw dailies (you dont even have to interact with other players)

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@Euryon.9248 said:

@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.

Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least
some
of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.

Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.

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@Celsith.2753 said:

@"Last Crysis.1934" said:Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

NO.They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE

I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.

Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.

Cause that's basically what you're asking for.Reward with no effort

Actually, they removed map comp from wvw because pvers used to flood the maps and not participate in wvw stuff... That aside, GoB is pretty easy to get, I agree

Actually they moved it because pvers cried and cried and cried about it.

This is correct. The forums were flooded with ,"How do you require this of me!" posts, and voila it got removed.

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@"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:Dear Anet,

pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.

Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.

Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.

fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.

I seriously wish I had NEVER started crafting Bifrost. Wasted way too many materials listening to a former guildie tell me how easy it was. Yeah, if you PvE for hours a day maybe. Got Zap as a drop, and had bolt made nearly immediately, but yeah that crafting grind, ugh

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@"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:Dear Anet,

pls make GoB harder to get, so people who got legendaries actually deserve them.

Ya realize that with leggy crafting now that those crafting from scratch who need GoB deserve the leggy's they make right? Even if they got a pre drop, if someone is crafting the rest (using mats grinded beforehand or are grinding them now) also deserve the leggy's they make.

Imo your statement appears a bit ignorant if not a bit elitist.

fyi...WvW is my main method and have a ton of GoB's, however my point was less about how easy it is to get them and more about your statements ignorance of who deserve a legendary or who is worthy of such.

I seriously wish I had NEVER started crafting Bifrost. Wasted way too many materials listening to a former guildie tell me how easy it was. Yeah, if you PvE for hours a day maybe.

If one can put up with all the f'n grind for them, then god bless em as they def deserve it :p

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@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:

@aandiarie.7195 said:We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it :(

They did, they have a warning of a couple months before they removed it.... just saying

XD I didn't see that, otherwise I'd have stocked up

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@aandiarie.7195 said:We used to be able to buy the gift of battle with wvw currency, but Anet changed it to the wvw track. It would've been nice if they'd have told us beforehand to I could've used my wvw currency on it :(

They did, they have a warning of a couple months before they removed it.... just saying

XD I didn't see that, otherwise I'd have stocked up

It was buried in the longest patch notes up to that date, in the WvW section, so a lot of people missed it. And others that noticed it thought we'd get a warning before it actually happened (since the patch notes didn't say), and that was then (as is now) the more common practice: tell us it's happening, then later get a specific date, then implement. It was pretty easy to miss.


Even though I was among those who failed to stock up, I can't agree that it's too burdensome. It can be done very slowly without stepping foot in WvW & moderately quickly doing PvE-like dailies. And for those who want it quickly, it can be done in 6-12 hours, which seems to me barely grindful given how long everything else takes.

To me, the main issue is that some people just hate the idea of competitive gaming (I can't blame them; that was me when I started GW2).

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@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:

@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.

Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least
some
of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.

Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/36856/reward-tracks-are-still-dull#latest

Item #2, requesting to get GoE via reward tracks because he hates PvE.

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@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:It was buried in the longest patch notes up to that date, in the WvW section, so a lot of people missed it. And others that noticed it thought we'd get a warning before it actually happened (since the patch notes didn't say), and that was then (as is now) the more common practice: tell us it's happening, then later get a specific date, then implement. It was pretty easy to miss.Yeah, the whole thing was incredibly shady, to the point that I suspect Anet did it that way specifically to catch people off guard.

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Just last night I progressed about half of the reward track from using the consumables from the daily chests. I had been holding onto everything for the past month. The only WvW dailies that I had really been doing were to spend badges, monuments, and veteran creature. There may have been a few camps and yaks dailies done. All of this without interacting with a single enemy player.

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@Euryon.9248 said:

@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.

Yes you do, plenty of people complain about that, including a current thread where someone requested to get GoE entirely through a wvw reward track. I say the same thing here that I said there : to earn a leg, you have to do at least
some
of every game mode. Keep the 3 mode-oriented gifts as they are. If I had to suffer through hours and hours of PvP (which I hate), you can handle the Gift of Battle, and wvw-specialists can handle GoE. If we only had to do game content we thoroughly enjoyed to get a leg, they'd be a dime a dozen and not worthy of the name.

Post a link to that thread, since that would be a first instead of someone using it as a rebuttal to all the whiners wanting GoB without doing the Required content.

Item #2, requesting to get GoE via reward tracks because he hates PvE.

There is actually nothing about GoE in that point, RC to stronk...

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@Euryon.9248 said:

You have no clue whatsoever. You can't even get into the green ebg keep with just a few people when the enemy outnumbers you 24/7. I played a lot of wvw back then specifically trying to get those final few items and it was literally impossible. Don't tell me I'm wrong, you weren't there. It was impossible.

And for your information, I've been at fractal level 100 forever and have 4 alts with 150 AR. Your condescension is disgusting.

It was not 'impossible', I did it five times. It was 'hard'. Too hard? maybe, it certainly enraged people like you.Not sure what your fractal level has to do with wvw or your argument that it didn't make people cry, when you're still upset enough to be quite upset years later <3

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