Living story is the single worst gaming experience so far in my entire life.

AliamRationem.5172 · April 20, 2018

@Raigai.4218 said:
@"Kheldorn.5123" said:When reading title I expected Caudecus fight to be the reason. And OP didn't disappoint.
HoT and LW3 are definitely more complex than the gameplay joke that is core Tyria and personal story. Get used to it as it's for the better that game expects you to be focused more, learn the mechanics and play more actively. Once you understand Caudecus fight it's cakewalk. It may require you to change some utilities, hope it's not too much to ask?

Change utilities? I can just keep dying forever and run back with broken gear until it's over. It's awful design. It's embarrassing. And before anybody here gets cocky, I'm not a bad player. I'm a top player in a known fighting game that is much more complex than this kid's game.

So what? I was great at Streetfighter back in the day and I've always been great at MMOs, too. But put me in an FPS game, give me some time to practice, and I'm still average at best! I don't do well with MOBAs, either. They're just different game types and what makes a great player in one doesn't necessarily translate into the next.

I beat Caedecus the first night that episode was released on my elementalist. It took me one attempt and I went down one time. This was before they nerfed it. Am I the best player that ever lived? Doubtful. What does that tell you?

Yamazuki.6073 · April 20, 2018

@battledrone.8315 said:
@lokh.2695 said:
@battledrone.8315 said:
@lokh.2695 said:Well, to be fair, I had encounters with the old grumpy man where I ended up half naked and exhausted.
Having said that, since most bosses in story instances don't regain health/reset, even if an encounter is hard or your struggling at any given point you can attrition it out, not the most fancy thing to do, but it works. Then there's also, you know, all the other ppl playing this MMorpg. If you struggle at something, chances are high, others are as well. Team up and you'll be fine.MMOs don't get more casual than GW2 open world. It's casual to the point where you can play for hundreds of hours in the open world w/o knowing what the cc skills of your class are, how to effectively dodge AoEs or what the point of melee weapons is. Open world PvE asks next to nothing from the players which not only prevents players from learning a few tricks about the game but also gives most players a sense of false security/badassnes when they encounter slightly harder content. So when they go into an encounter that is slightly more demanding and fail it can't possibly be because they have missed something about the encounter or failed to use basic in-game mechanics, it's because the game is bad and not casual friendly enough. There is only truth in that statement in the sense that the open world fails to teach ppl about mechanics by not demanding it.

sooo...its not the wrong product, its the wrong customers?

no, this was sold as a casual mmo

more like: the product is flawed in that it doesn't demand more of the players on a regular basis which leads to players to being overwhelmed when the game actually wants them to do something.it is a casual mmo

and if the game demanded more of the players, then it wouldnt be CASUAL, would it?

"Casual" depends on context. When people talk about casuals they are referring to irregular playtime or a less than serious attitude toward the game (which often causes the irregular playtime). This has absolutely nothing to do with the actual difficulty of the game, as a casual can play competitive or difficult game, just look at League of Legends and how it was initially the moba for casuals.

For a game to cater to casuals it can't just be easy, most MMORPGs are already extremely easy, but don't cater to casuals (unless they have a wallet) because at the end of the day casuals don't play for 12 hours a day, nor do they play everyday, and often times take breaks. GW2 is setup in a way where gear you earn is permanent, you aren't grinding 5 months for gear that only has a 6-12 month cycle, there isn't a 90%+ dps and defense difference between mid tier gear and best in slot, etc. Exotics are thrown around and many are basically free off the TP, Ascended sets can be earned in a month and are permanent as well as not being miles better than exotics, and then legendaries are just ascended pieces with "better" visuals and freely swapping stats.

Some of the game's reliable gold making method don't even take effort and can be semi-afked through while others do the work.

Khisanth.2948 · April 20, 2018

@battledrone.8315 said:
@lokh.2695 said:
@battledrone.8315 said:
@lokh.2695 said:
@battledrone.8315 said:
@lokh.2695 said:Well, to be fair, I had encounters with the old grumpy man where I ended up half naked and exhausted.
Having said that, since most bosses in story instances don't regain health/reset, even if an encounter is hard or your struggling at any given point you can attrition it out, not the most fancy thing to do, but it works. Then there's also, you know, all the other ppl playing this MMorpg. If you struggle at something, chances are high, others are as well. Team up and you'll be fine.MMOs don't get more casual than GW2 open world. It's casual to the point where you can play for hundreds of hours in the open world w/o knowing what the cc skills of your class are, how to effectively dodge AoEs or what the point of melee weapons is. Open world PvE asks next to nothing from the players which not only prevents players from learning a few tricks about the game but also gives most players a sense of false security/badassnes when they encounter slightly harder content. So when they go into an encounter that is slightly more demanding and fail it can't possibly be because they have missed something about the encounter or failed to use basic in-game mechanics, it's because the game is bad and not casual friendly enough. There is only truth in that statement in the sense that the open world fails to teach ppl about mechanics by not demanding it.

sooo...its not the wrong product, its the wrong customers?

no, this was sold as a casual mmo

more like: the product is flawed in that it doesn't demand more of the players on a regular basis which leads to players to being overwhelmed when the game actually wants them to do something.it is a casual mmo

and if the game demanded more of the players, then it wouldnt be CASUAL, would it?

If the game demanded more in the open world, ppl would learn and thus know more about the game and its mechanics which would make them struggle less. What do you want, press 1 to receive your selection of BiS gear and a Legendary?

no, i want new casual content, that doesnt REQUIRE me to have good gearbut, i know they can make more money with grind content to bolster the CC so...

Exotic works fine. Although gear isn't going to make any difference against the CC spam they resort to these days.

EpicName.4523 · April 20, 2018

@"Kheldorn.5123" said:
@EpicName.4523 said:
@"Kheldorn.5123" said:
@EpicName.4523 said:
@"Kheldorn.5123" said:
@EpicName.4523 said:I dislike the LW as well and have two problems with it:
1) Most boss fights rely on some gimmick in order to finish them off. It can be quite frustrating before you find what that gimmick is and it isn't always that apparent. To be fair, if those mechanics did not exist the bosses would be just pinjatas you have to dps down. And here is for my second point.

Could you give some examples?

Take the final boss in Bitterfrost story. Champion Ice Beast or something. There you have stand behind some mobs so he charges and kills them. This is a gimmick.

Okay, this one is indeed not well explained. Anything else?

Literally every boss at the end of an episode. They would require what most people would call a "unique mechanic" to defeat them and I call gimmick. Pointed the beast out because it was particularly annoying and badly explained as you said.

I was expecting more from you. What you say is wrong for every case but the ice monster from episode 3.

Episode 1: Out of the Shadows - Jade Armor champ: breakbar + bloodstone nodes with special action. Breakbar is nothing new and bloodstone effect with special action is introduced to players earlier in this episode and even if you forget, whole instance is about teaching you how to use special action for this case.

Episode 2: Rising Flames - the pustule mechanic is introduced during final fight and clearly communicated on the screen when it spawns.

Episode 3: A Crack in the Ice - as we agreed, this boss indeed lacks proper mechanic explanation and is all about trial and error.

Episode 4: The Head of the Snake - Caudecus may feel hard because of small room we fight him in but mechanics of the fight are stupidly easy. Breakbar + burst. The rest is surviving. You can break him using your own skills or throwing bloodstone shards at him. Players should know they deal big breakbar damage since Episode 1 already.

Episode 5: Flashpoint - Balthazar fight is all about repeating same mechanic you are being tought to use in this instance. Taimi also clearly communicates what you need to do.

Episode 6: One Path Ends - just like Flashpoint, Eye of Janthir and it's ability to break golem defenses and anomalies is being presented in whole instance so players should understand this easily. The rest is killing Lazarus and avoiding death.

Sorry, but except for episode 3 all mechanics are explained to players in these episodes. So claiming that game is expecting you to guess mechanics is misinformation. At this point it's on player to stay focused on playing the game and executing the knowledge that is provided to them.

I am sorry man, but you misunderstood. I never claimed the mechanics are not explained, though in some cases they are not. I said that every boss has a gimmick you must use in order to beat him and I prefer not to have those gimmicks because the story is boring and I'd rather have some dummy to dps down and finally move to the next map.If the story and especially the characters in it were somewhat more interesting this might not be the case.

Obtena.7952 · April 20, 2018

@"Theros.1390" said:I just regret that the title is just SO negative, and the op post so unconstructive.
It would have been great to see more sentences like "How can we improve this : ", and less like "This is a whole tr*sh"

That's because the OP isn't interested in improving it ... he's just frustrated and wants to make the game appeal to the lowest common denominator, single player AFK-fest.

Somewhere along the line ... people forgot how to actually PLAY games and forgot that playing games involves solving problems, not just being the lead actor in a screenshot. Clearly the OP didn't try to solve his problem at all, then dismissed the game for being too hard.

GrubySzymek.1362 · April 20, 2018

@EpicName.4523 said:
@"Kheldorn.5123" said:
@EpicName.4523 said:
@"Kheldorn.5123" said:
@EpicName.4523 said:
@"Kheldorn.5123" said:
@EpicName.4523 said:I dislike the LW as well and have two problems with it:
1) Most boss fights rely on some gimmick in order to finish them off. It can be quite frustrating before you find what that gimmick is and it isn't always that apparent. To be fair, if those mechanics did not exist the bosses would be just pinjatas you have to dps down. And here is for my second point.