Math.5123 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Why can a necro pull people to or from no-ports? Making it incredibly hard to cleave the near insta-res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emapudapus.1307 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Why does holo aoe cc andnecro pull affect you in 3D, while nec axe 3 and warhorn 4 is only 2D?Its unfair world that we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor.3720 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @Emapudapus.1307 said:Why does holo aoe cc andnecro pull affect you in 3D, while nec axe 3 and warhorn 4 is only 2D?Its unfair world that we live in.Don't forget the ridiculous pathing of Holo Prime Light Beam, with 2D trail and 3D shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Why can a necro pull people to or from no-ports? Making it incredibly hard to cleave the near insta-res.Except it doesn't?If I try to transfusion somebody while standing on a pillar it won't teleport them to me, it will teleport them to the base of pillar. Tranfusion will pull a down to the closest valid location to the necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague Memory.2817 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @Emapudapus.1307 said:Why does holo aoe cc andnecro pull affect you in 3D, while nec axe 3 and warhorn 4 is only 2D?Its unfair world that we live in.So true. If they are created on a higher or lower plane than you they can still hit you with these AoEs. It's such BS. It's like the AoEs have the shape of a (very large) sphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @Emapudapus.1307 said:Why does holo aoe cc andnecro pull affect you in 3D, while nec axe 3 and warhorn 4 is only 2D?Its unfair world that we live in.That's actually because the weapons you're referring to were designed back in 2012, not recently. All core weapons with cone AoE have this problem -- they have very limited vertical effects. Blunderbuss (engineer rifle 3) and Drake's Breath (ele dagger 2) have this exact same problem as well.More recent additions to the game (IE Holographic Shockwave) use a 3D bubble effect instead of a cone because the devs recognize this as a potential shortcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @Vagrant.7206 said:@Emapudapus.1307 said:Why does holo aoe cc andnecro pull affect you in 3D, while nec axe 3 and warhorn 4 is only 2D?Its unfair world that we live in.That's actually because the weapons you're referring to were designed back in 2012, not recently. All core weapons with cone AoE have this problem -- they have very limited vertical effects. Blunderbuss (engineer rifle 3) and Drake's Breath (ele dagger 2) have this exact same problem as well.More recent additions to the game (IE Holographic Shockwave) use a 3D bubble effect instead of a cone because the devs recognize this as a potential shortcoming.Would be nice to see a pass going through all of the older skills to make them work fully in a 3D environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @Drarnor Kunoram.5180 said:@Vagrant.7206 said:@Emapudapus.1307 said:Why does holo aoe cc andnecro pull affect you in 3D, while nec axe 3 and warhorn 4 is only 2D?Its unfair world that we live in.That's actually because the weapons you're referring to were designed back in 2012, not recently. All core weapons with cone AoE have this problem -- they have very limited vertical effects. Blunderbuss (engineer rifle 3) and Drake's Breath (ele dagger 2) have this exact same problem as well.More recent additions to the game (IE Holographic Shockwave) use a 3D bubble effect instead of a cone because the devs recognize this as a potential shortcoming.Would be nice to see a pass going through all of the older skills to make them work fully in a 3D environment.Agreed, I think it would help breathe some life into those older weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acandis.3250 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 It doesn't.The only way it would port someone to a no-port is if both the necro doing the transfusion and the corpse being pulled are on the same mesh so that they can port to each other. It might sometimes happen that that mesh is a no-port relative to your current position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I just want to know why Transfusion pulls 4 allies 600 range on a 16 second cooldown while Search and Rescue is on a 60 second cooldown and only pulls 1 ally 600 range.An explanation would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @shadowpass.4236 said:I just want to know why Transfusion pulls 4 allies 600 range on a 16 second cooldown while Search and Rescue is on a 60 second cooldown and only pulls 1 ally 600 range.An explanation would be fantastic.Because Search and Rescue will fully rez a downed player with no further action on the Ranger's part. Transfusion will not bring a player out of downstate on it's own. Also because there used to be a SNR Druid build back in the HoT era that was a way better power rezzer than anything else in the game before or since, so SNR was nerfed because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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