Scourge and spellbreaker need to be toned down

[Shala.8352]

The first one cuz you can't even get close to him without gettint 40++ conditions, the second because is just immortal.End of discussion.

[Malediktus.9250]

Yes the scourge is insane. The condis down me before I even get in melee range

[The one to Rule.2593]

Sounds like learn to play issues.

[Arheundel.6451]

@The one to Rule.2593 said:Sounds like learn to play issues.

Aka play only ranged class? Because setting aside the common nature of this thread, the OP is indeed correct, you cannot effectively get close 1m range of a scourge

[Shirlias.8104]

In before stay ranged or you must go capture or fight somewhere else.

[chibbi.3706]

@Arheundel.6451 said:

@The one to Rule.2593 said:Sounds like learn to play issues.

Aka play only ranged class? Because setting aside the common nature of this thread, the OP is indeed correct,

you cannot effectively get close 1m range of a scourge

You can when his shroud is down, just bait it, disengage then reengage.

Or if you're a weaver you just don't give a fuck about scourge.

[ArthurDent.9538]

Sounds like Bearbow meta incoming.

[Oglaf.1074]

But if you tone down Spellbreaker's PvP that spec has literally nothing.

NOTHING.

They dumpstered all it's PvE potential/viability for this.

[Zeghart.9841]

Can't you read the OP? End of discussion bois, Shala has spoken. Stop commenting, the decision has been made

[Nova.3817]

as a scourage id trade dmg for some survivbility maybe i just havent got a good build or a its a ltp issue but im having tons of trouble sustaining

[Arheundel.6451]

@Nova.3817 said:as a scourage id trade dmg for some survivbility maybe i just havent got a good build or a its a ltp issue but im having tons of trouble sustaining

What you say goes against the reality of facts....hundreds of scourge seems to disagree with you in PvP and wvw ..and the rest.....if it's so hard why there are hundreds of scourges?

[choovanski.5462]

nah scourge is chill. no death shroud means less gunflames are needed to kill him

[Lan.1968]

This might come as a surprise for a lot of you, but you can actually dodge scourge aoe's so you're not just charging into condi's due to tunnel vision. Not to mention spellbreaker is dangerously squishy against heavy burst classes like ele and deadeye, so I'm not sure why people are complaining about that.

[Arheundel.6451]

It's a l2p issue every time the meta change but different people always giving the l2p message who "by chance" play what the meta favour atm...

[Arheundel.6451]

@Lan.1968 said:This might come as a surprise for a lot of you, but you can actually dodge scourge aoe's so you're not just charging into condi's due to tunnel vision. Not to mention spellbreaker is dangerously squishy against heavy burst classes like ele and deadeye, so I'm not sure why people are complaining about that.

Maybe if you play another class against scourge and record it...your message would get across more easily I believe

[Aza.2105]

The problem so far with scourge is that their skills take up the entire point. Like there is no room to avoid them unless you just don't go on the point. Either they need to make the points bigger or the scourges persistent aoes smaller.

[Vallenous.2179]

Must be nice when Firebrand can't even 1v1 an afk thief.

[Amityel.5324]

@Aza.2105 said:The problem so far with scourge is that their skills take up the entire point. Like there is no room to avoid them unless you just don't go on the point. Either they need to make the points bigger or the scourges persistent aoes smaller.

@Aza.2105 said:The problem so far with scourge is that their skills take up the entire point. Like there is no room to avoid them unless you just don't go on the point. Either they need to make the points bigger or the scourges persistent aoes smaller.

lol so like 20 radius :D man they are already only 180 radius you cant hit anything with that you have to take grandmaster to make it useful

[Caedmon.6798]

@Balerios.3679 said:

Def a l2p issue. Deadeye and firebrand own me in seconds but i still dunno how to counter them. I didnt come to forums to whine like you.kitten

Exactly..patch is live 2 days and we already have these threads ? Just wow,how about you take some time to practice the new specs and learn how to counter them.I dont even know how to fully counter all new specs yet...Been killed by a dead eye in 2 shots..one did 16k.You dont see me crying on the forum,yet i asked guildbuddys on how to counter or ignore that and practice on it.

[Caedmon.6798]

@Caedmon.6798 said:@Balerios.3679 said:

Def a l2p issue. Deadeye and firebrand own me in seconds but i still dunno how to counter them. I didnt come to forums to whine like you.kitten

Exactly..patch is live 2 days and we already have these threads ? Just wow,how about you take some time to practice the new specs and learn how to counter them.I dont even know how to fully counter all new specs yet...Been killed by a dead eye in 2 shots..one did 16k.You dont see me crying on the forum,yet i asked guildbuddys on how to counter or ignore that and practice on it,which is more fun and fulfilling than asking for a nerf on a spec released 2 days ago.

[Amityel.5324]

yep finally some fun in pvp these specs look like more dmg but less defense they are glass cannons try to play scourge vs anything that has ranged attacks you wont win

[Ronin.7381]

@Oglaf.1074 said:They dumpstered all it's PvE potential/viability for this.

That's what it feels like to me. Being able to Counter is fine but as someone running around with Dolyak Signet and quite a bit of toughness (through Runes, Momentum, and gear) I still feel completely vulnerable.

[messiah.1908]

where all the ppl who cried on ventari kb.... i told you wait for scourge and spellbreaker.... now you got something else to wine about....

[ugrakarma.9416]

Scourge is a counter to Spellbreaker and vice-versa. King of Aoe Spam vs King of counters.Ofc is predictable most of criers are Burn Guards or thievs.

[Havok.6073]

@Aza.2105 said:The problem so far with scourge is that their skills take up the entire point. Like there is no room to avoid them unless you just don't go on the point. Either they need to make the points bigger or the scourges persistent aoes smaller.

Dragon Hunters getting competition for claiming entire points? Heresy! ;)