cesmode.4257 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I know many folks over many years have requested race changes...but man I do wish I could race change my human warrior to Char. I know because of personal story reasons and maybe other reasons arenanet is either reluctant or unable.If the reason is because of the personal story issue and your choices, etc...Have a disclaimer pop up saying:"Your personal story progress will be reset." or"Your personal story choices have been pre selected and as best matched up as they could be".But I absolutely hate my female human warrior and would love to make it a Char. I could probably scrounge enough tomes over a few weeks to power level a new character but I would need to buy a new char slot so that I don't have to delete my current character and lose all of my maxed up weaponsmith with tons of exotic and ascended recipes, plus the birthday celebrations. I'd also race change my norn to something else...as well as my revenant! I should probably make smarter choices with regard to race, which is why I cant decide: norn or char for my ranger.I'd pay 20 bucks per race change. Lets do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 @"cesmode.4257" said:I know many folks over many years have requested race changes...but man I do wish I could race change my human warrior to Char. I know because of personal story reasons and maybe other reasons arenanet is either reluctant or unable.If the reason is because of the personal story issue and your choices, etc...Have a disclaimer pop up saying:"Your personal story progress will be reset." or"Your personal story choices have been pre selected and as best matched up as they could be".But I absolutely hate my female human warrior and would love to make it a Char. I could probably scrounge enough tomes over a few weeks to power level a new character but I would need to buy a new char slot so that I don't have to delete my current character and lose all of my maxed up weaponsmith with tons of exotic and ascended recipes, plus the birthday celebrations. I'd also race change my norn to something else...as well as my revenant! I should probably make smarter choices with regard to race, which is why I cant decide: norn or char for my ranger.> I'd pay 20 bucks per race change. Lets do it!Is a character slot more than $20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGranse.8652 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think the issue was more how your race and story interlocked with the character. It might be impossible or cause damage to the character trying to change these data.Before people start to point out that it is possible in other games: Things get coded differently and different issues arises. For example the starting bag in WoW was (or still is, not sure) not able to be changed for a larger bag because many things were hardcoded with the starterbag in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Might not be possible seeing as how the race is tied to the personal story and the home instance. You’re better off making a new char than chancing the bugs that would come up from messing with the spaghetti code at the base of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesmode.4257 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 @Loosmaster.8263 said:@"cesmode.4257" said:I know many folks over many years have requested race changes...but man I do wish I could race change my human warrior to Char. I know because of personal story reasons and maybe other reasons arenanet is either reluctant or unable.If the reason is because of the personal story issue and your choices, etc...Have a disclaimer pop up saying:"Your personal story progress will be reset." or"Your personal story choices have been pre selected and as best matched up as they could be".But I absolutely hate my female human warrior and would love to make it a Char. I could probably scrounge enough tomes over a few weeks to power level a new character but I would need to buy a new char slot so that I don't have to delete my current character and lose all of my maxed up weaponsmith with tons of exotic and ascended recipes, plus the birthday celebrations. I'd also race change my norn to something else...as well as my revenant! I should probably make smarter choices with regard to race, which is why I cant decide: norn or char for my ranger.> I'd pay 20 bucks per race change. Lets do it!Is a character slot more than $20?No, but I keep my leveled up professions, timeplayed(age) on the character for the beloved birthday gifts each year, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric.4713 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It's way overdue, if personal story is the problem just find a way to reset everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben K.6238 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think there are structural reasons why this can't happen, but I'd certainly buy one to change my last norn into a charr. Unless norn shapeshifting actually becomes part of the race as it was in GW1, but sure enough there are gameplay reasons why that can't happen. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think the official consensus is that the time and effort required to find ways to circumvent the roadblocks (personal story and all that) are far too great in contrast to how big the demand/how profitable a race change consumable would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with them (not to mention they are handicapped in fashion wars). Fortunately, it's only 800 gems to create a new toon of a different race, and a matter of hours to get them to where they have the same traits. Plus, I can just swap ascended gear.If it were technically feasible for ANet to offer a race change, for me, it would have to be super cheap to be worth it. And I don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diak Atoli.2085 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 @Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Endless Miniature Tonic. Best. Purchase. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 @Oglaf.1074 said:@"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenghisKhan.7842 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I think coding a race change would be a total messJust buy a new character slot and unleash Tome Wars ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me.The worst part (aside from it being difficult to judge where the “feet” are when moving on all fours) is if you have a Medium armour class Charr: the way the inevitable trench coat balloons/parachutes out when you descend from your jump simply obscures everything! :anguished: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 i can see why it'd be hard for them to implement,they'd have to code things in like if your character is wearing cultural armour it'd need to swap to the other race's cultural armour,but what if you don't have that armour unlocked?and thats not even delving into the personal story stuff,it'd get complicated.also with the amount of boosters/tomes it is very easy to just make a new char of the race you want and boost them to 80 instantly,plus its free XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Doctor: This will feel a little weird.But really: But have you asked your human warrior girl? The humans have a complicated history with the Charr and many would rather die than becoming one. If she is not 100% comfortable with your plans, she may end up with an incurable depression and/or identity crisis. So maybe it is better to accept your girl just as she is now and show her some love. Don't let her profession fool you. While warriors most often have the highest strength of them all, they also can feel surprisingly insecure from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzarakiel.7490 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 If Anet did not make something with the intention of making it easy to change in the future, then it might be impossible to change it without costing more than they could ever earn back from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trise.2865 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Here ya go. For only $10 USD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalimae.3406 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 @cesmode.4257 said:I know many folks over many years have requested race changes...but man I do wish I could race change my human warrior to Char. I know because of personal story reasons and maybe other reasons arenanet is either reluctant or unable.I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the game's noodle code probably doesn't allow a change even if ANet wanted to implement the feature. and lose all of my maxed up weaponsmith with tons of exotic and ascended recipes, plus the birthday celebrations. Recipes are account wide now - so if you make a new character and level up their crafting profession you don't have to hunt down those recipes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me.The worst part (aside from it being difficult to judge where the “feet” are when moving on all fours) is if you have a Medium armour class Charr: the way the inevitable trench coat balloons/parachutes out when you descend from your jump simply obscures everything! :anguished: That's why you do JPs shirtless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesmode.4257 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 @Thalimae.3406 said:@cesmode.4257 said:I know many folks over many years have requested race changes...but man I do wish I could race change my human warrior to Char. I know because of personal story reasons and maybe other reasons arenanet is either reluctant or unable.I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the game's noodle code probably doesn't allow a change even if ANet wanted to implement the feature. and lose all of my maxed up weaponsmith with tons of exotic and ascended recipes, plus the birthday celebrations. Recipes are account wide now - so if you make a new character and level up their crafting profession you don't have to hunt down those recipes again.So...already learned recipes that my weaponsmith has...I wont have to go out and find them again? Once I hit the appropriate crafting profession level on my new weaponsmith, those exotic and ascended recipes will be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @derd.6413 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me.The worst part (aside from it being difficult to judge where the “feet” are when moving on all fours) is if you have a Medium armour class Charr: the way the inevitable trench coat balloons/parachutes out when you descend from your jump simply obscures everything! :anguished: That's why you do JPs shirtlessDon't try this in the volcano tho. Unless you like the smell of roasted bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @TheQuickFox.3826 said:@derd.6413 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me.The worst part (aside from it being difficult to judge where the “feet” are when moving on all fours) is if you have a Medium armour class Charr: the way the inevitable trench coat balloons/parachutes out when you descend from your jump simply obscures everything! :anguished: That's why you do JPs shirtlessDon't try this in the volcano tho. Unless you like the smell of roasted bacon.You get used to the smell of burning furr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve The Cynic.3217 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @cesmode.4257 said:@Thalimae.3406 said:@cesmode.4257 said:I know many folks over many years have requested race changes...but man I do wish I could race change my human warrior to Char. I know because of personal story reasons and maybe other reasons arenanet is either reluctant or unable.I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the game's noodle code probably doesn't allow a change even if ANet wanted to implement the feature. and lose all of my maxed up weaponsmith with tons of exotic and ascended recipes, plus the birthday celebrations. Recipes are account wide now - so if you make a new character and level up their crafting profession you don't have to hunt down those recipes again.So...already learned recipes that my weaponsmith has...I wont have to go out and find them again? Once I hit the appropriate crafting profession level on my new weaponsmith, those exotic and ascended recipes will be available?If you learned them from a recipe sheet, they are available on all characters on your account once they level up the relevant craft.If you learned them automatically by levelling up, you learn them by levelling up on the new character.If you learned them in the Discovery tab, you have to learn them again on each character.EDIT: in fact, if you start a new character, you'll see all those recipe-sheet recipes for that craft listed in red (for "not high enough level to craft") even when you're at craft level 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diak Atoli.2085 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @derd.6413 said:@TheQuickFox.3826 said:@derd.6413 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Oglaf.1074 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with themAs a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished: Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me.The worst part (aside from it being difficult to judge where the “feet” are when moving on all fours) is if you have a Medium armour class Charr: the way the inevitable trench coat balloons/parachutes out when you descend from your jump simply obscures everything! :anguished: That's why you do JPs shirtlessDon't try this in the volcano tho. Unless you like the smell of roasted bacon.You get used to the smell of burning furrYou wouldn't happen to be an Elementalist, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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