A Week without Stealth

[Straegen.2938]

I would love to play a week with zero stealth in WvW.

[Justine.6351]

I assume you don't play a class with stealth.

[Straegen.2938]

I have mained a thief for a few thousand hours in WvW and it is still a dominant class in playtime for me.

[Chaba.5410]

A week without Might.

A week without Stability.

A week without Protection.

A week without Resistance.

A week without Regeneration.

ad nauseum... literally.

[LaGranse.8652]

Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

[steki.1478]

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

Stealth isnt core mechanic of any class though.

[Lahmia.2193]

@steki.1478 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

Stealth isnt core mechanic of any class though.

One of thieves mechanics is stealth attacks. So yeah it kind of is.

[cobbah.3102]

Just delete ALL stealth there is no need for it AT all in the game mode as it is for any character.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@steki.1478 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

Stealth isnt core mechanic of any class though.

True, but the whole Shadow arts traitline pretty much becomes useless without it.

[Rysdude.3824]

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

[derd.6413]

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

what's a scrapper?

[Rysdude.3824]

@derd.6413 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

what's a scrapper?

That thing that lives under the stairs and not allowed into the public for them to see because its so hideous.

[derd.6413]

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@derd.6413 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

what's a scrapper?

That thing that lives under the stairs and not allowed into the public for them to see because its so hideous.

i was certain it was some charr title

[Blocki.4931]

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

No warrior Revenge either. No Ranger pet revive... It hit everybody equally. Scrapper is not a unique snowflake, but the 2 people impacted by this must have really been upset

[Rysdude.3824]

@Blocki.4931 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

No warrior Revenge either. No Ranger pet revive... It hit everybody equally. Scrapper is not a unique snowflake, but the 2 people impacted by this must have really been upset

What you listed aren’t profession mechanics

[LaGranse.8652]

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@Blocki.4931 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

No warrior Revenge either. No Ranger pet revive... It hit everybody equally. Scrapper is not a unique snowflake, but the 2 people impacted by this must have really been upset

What you listed aren’t profession mechanics

It would seem I misquoted Anet somewhat. I have looked for and found the post I based my message upon.

@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:We certainly welcome any ideas for future WvW events!

Here are some guidelines we've been using in our brainstorming.

Change the way WvW is played in some way. Doesn't have to be a big change, but should be a change.

Using events as test beds for permanent changes can be nice, but isn't necessary. There are many things we probably would be willing to do for the length of a matchup, but wouldn't want it to be forever.

Events shouldn't require large art changes. We want to be able to implement these events quickly and not rely on getting a lot of art that may never be used again.

Events shouldn't exclude large sections of the player base. No restricting events to specific classes, expansions, etc.

Looking forward to hearing more ideas!

[Blocki.4931]

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@Blocki.4931 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

No warrior Revenge either. No Ranger pet revive... It hit everybody equally. Scrapper is not a unique snowflake, but the 2 people impacted by this must have really been upset

What you listed aren’t profession mechanics

Unique skill effects that only the respective classes have sounds like a profession mechanic. All of those can be improved with traits out of traitlines, but none of them are elite spec exclusive. Point stands. They didn't have it any better or worse than anybody else

[Rysdude.3824]

@LaGranse.8652 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@Blocki.4931 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

No warrior Revenge either. No Ranger pet revive... It hit everybody equally. Scrapper is not a unique snowflake, but the 2 people impacted by this must have really been upset

What you listed aren’t profession mechanics

It would seem I misquoted Anet somewhat. I have looked for and found the post I based my message upon.

@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:We certainly welcome any ideas for future WvW events!

Here are some guidelines we've been using in our brainstorming.

Change the way WvW is played in some way. Doesn't have to be a big change, but should be a change.

Using events as test beds for permanent changes can be nice, but isn't necessary. There are many things we probably would be willing to do for the length of a matchup, but wouldn't want it to be forever.

Events shouldn't require large art changes. We want to be able to implement these events quickly and not rely on getting a lot of art that may never be used again.

Events shouldn't exclude large sections of the player base. No restricting events to specific classes, expansions, etc.

Looking forward to hearing more ideas!

Understood OP, thanks for clarifying.

[Bigpapasmurf.5623]

No down impacted everyone guaranteed, despite class/build. Not everyone stealths. removing downstate isnt a class mechanic directly...stealth is. I understand that some traits would be impacted for no down, however no down was targeting 1 thing.... the down mechanic. Its not a class mechanic . Stealth directly targets a core class mechanic.

[reddie.5861]

To be honest I'm main thief I wouldn't mind this. But people who complain about this cus they are dying to thiefs or mesmers or whatever is in stealth are my problem.

Like warriors can do constant crits of around 7 too 10k on my thief.The core guardian with hammer ports and kinda one hits meOr the rev that just dance around me with sword build

I mean there are so many build out there doing equal high damage to a thief in a flash. The people complaining about stealth are complaining about mobility stealth isn't the problem. But they don't realise its mobility cus they don't see how thief is wandering around in stealth all they see is backstab and cry about stealth.

Side note I'm not even using stealth often on my thief so it wouldn't bother me such a event. Just trying to say that stealth isn't the problem. As other classes deal equal dmg with higher sustain. Instead of sustain thiefs have mobility.

[sephiroth.4217]

@Blocki.4931 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@Blocki.4931 said:

@Rysdude.3824 said:

@LaGranse.8652 said:Anet has stated that eventeffects that affect coremechanics of some classes will never be implemented. Thus you will never see a no stealth week.

So I guess No Downstate week’s effect on Scrapper’s core mechanic was Anet’s official shaft to the Scrapper lol

No warrior Revenge either. No Ranger pet revive... It hit everybody equally. Scrapper is not a unique snowflake, but the 2 people impacted by this must have really been upset

What you listed aren’t profession mechanics

Unique skill effects that only the respective classes have sounds like a profession mechanic. All of those can be improved with traits out of traitlines, but none of them are elite spec exclusive. Point stands. They didn't have it any better or worse than anybody else

function gyro really had no use that week aye

[Sleepwalker.1398]

@Straegen.2938 said:I would love to play a week with zero stealth in WvW.

Regardless, a good sword thief will still get you.

[Junkpile.7439]

Today thief lost 5 vs 1 fight against us after 10 min fighting and we did run back from spawn couple times. He was probably some new player because he didn't seems to be that good. Even i managed land some hits.

[Shining One.1635]

How about giving all NPCs Veil Sight for a week.

[Bigpapasmurf.5623]

Can you imagine...perma revealed for a week. I would bring back my Daredevil for that week for 100% uptime of revealed training. Think ppl cry now, wait til they see thieves with a permanent damage boost :trollface: