Jalal.6783 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 High ranking plat games are way too steamrolly when there is a duo q on the enemy team. They usually play 2 cc heavy, high damage burst, and mobility classes such as holo thief and absolutely wreck everything and are everywhere at once. It was a good try arenanet but now the quality of games is absolutely down the gutter when there is a duo q. The rare times the games aren't lost from the first mid fight, it is still the duo q is smashing and one shotting people all game so regardless of the win, it's not fun and no one enjoys being on the receiving end of that just so 2 players can enjoy the game and ruin it for the other 5. Ruins the solo q experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Punishing good people for being good sounds like a great idea .. if your goal is to further kill the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega.5791 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Well, this was expected. That is why with duoQ there is no point in a solo-leaderboard. Just play for fun and don't take anything too serious anymore. If you get stomped from time to time, just let it pass by yourself. You will stomp in another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with the OP post now that I've experienced duo que after solo que only and ATs, where 5 man premade MUST go against only other 5 man premades. All in all, solo que only forces fair playing ground in the aspect that everyone is a solo que. Then in ATs, it forces fair ground in the aspect that a 5 man premade must fight other 5 man premades. Any time there is a mixed que, it allows natural imbalances in at least this aspect as such. With duo que, wintrading is also much more obnoxious to contend against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I only played something like 12 games so far, but almost all of them were of better quality than previous season. More engaging and entertaining. But yeh, I DuoQ'd myself. Previous season I felt that even when I 1v3'd all game I could still lose. Now I feel a much better impact on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranthe.3578 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think you guys are misguided and absurd, youre playing a mmorppg, youre supposed to que up with other people and form parties yourself and not look for a solo experience O_O" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pah.4931 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If anything, Ranked should be team only and you play only for glory (and maybe end of season rewards). And unranked should be a solo-q/group-q designed around having fun, trying new builds, practicing, and farming pips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Some reasonable people told Anet that duoQ in ranked is a bad idea. But now we have it and it will take ages to get it undone again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exedore.6320 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 This is actually good thing. Players just need to adjust.Because of the solo queue restriction, a lot of players have developed a "solo queue mentality" where they're playing for themselves and not really coordinating as a team nor aiming for objectives as a team. Those players are also playing builds which are strong solo but not necessarily great as a team.Re-introducing duo queue to high levels allows people who have good teamplay and coordination to shine. And in a team-based format, that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrauls.6519 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I told you all this would happen smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggityzog.7389 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 They could improve pvp with 1 easy fix. Allow teams but Now there is a solo only LB and a Team of 2,3 and 5 LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe.1807 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 lol really? What else people expected? Either make solo only or a team only game, if you mix up its obvious that you will have a huge imbalance...still not sure what made Anet completelly ignore the majority of their playerbase and bring back duo to T2 plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySummer.2568 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 i only hate it when it's 1 duo on your team vs 2 duos on others and the duos on your team clearly sucks (eg. go far together whole game and keep dying there together) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 "Duo que is only hated by a very vocal minority. Those who enjoy duo que aren't on the forums, they are busy enjoying the game."Ecks dee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The phrase: "Didn't know what you had, until you lost it." comes to mind. Enjoy the irony :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 According to Anet duo que did not have a higher chance of winning than solo. I do not have a reason not to believe them. Though, I think it causes more one sided games. And all else held equal, the team with voice communication is always going to have an advantage.Regardless of the winning percentage, it most definitely screws royally with the match making. I personally think it should be eliminated from ranked completely (irrespective of rating). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinkz.7045 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 @"Amaranthe.3578" said:I think you guys are misguided and absurd, youre playing a mmorppg, youre supposed to que up with other people and form parties yourself and not look for a solo experience O_O"The flaw with that "logic" being a 5 man team (10 man game) in its own little instance is not MMORPG either, MMORPGs are meant to be 'massively multiplayer' (the clue is in the name), a teams of 5 is a co-op (normal multiplayer) game and as for being in an instance outside of the persistent world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 If I read this right.... You still win against these duo's but it's purely unfun to get focused by them?I'd say getting focused in general isn't fun but meh, lets blame the duo because that's easier.Only Anet would know, But I feel like the population has grown this season already, my matches are popping quick as and the overall quality of these games have drastically improved since last season. I'm not getting kicked into Gold by the top 20 players, I was rank 178 as solo queue and fighting players who were ranked 180 and 160... That's great to me, being able to beat or lose to similar skilled players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @Malediktus.9250 said:Some reasonable people told Anet that removing team queues in ranked is a bad idea. But now we have it and it will take ages to get it undone againfixed it for you lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @zinkz.7045 said:@"Amaranthe.3578" said:I think you guys are misguided and absurd, youre playing a mmorppg, youre supposed to que up with other people and form parties yourself and not look for a solo experience O_O"The flaw with that "logic" being a 5 man team (10 man game) in its own little instance is not MMORPG either, MMORPGs are meant to be 'massively multiplayer' (the clue is in the name), two teams of 5 is a co-op (normal multiplayer) game and as for being in an instance outside of the persistent world...Guild Wars 2 is a game, that game is a MMO and everything in that game is part of the MMO experience.... But let me understand your logic... If I'm playing with 30 friends, its MMO... But if I choose to party with some of them for PvP, Dungeons, fractals, raids or for any content in this game, then it is no longer an MMO game I'm playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatdeNecro.2395 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @HeadCrowned.6834 said:I only played something like 12 games so far, but almost all of them were of better quality than previous season. More engaging and entertaining. But yeh, I DuoQ'd myself. Previous season I felt that even when I 1v3'd all game I could still lose. Now I feel a much better impact on the game. Are you saying that is because you DuoQ? Or just mere coincidence this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinkz.7045 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@zinkz.7045 said:@"Amaranthe.3578" said:I think you guys are misguided and absurd, youre playing a mmorppg, youre supposed to que up with other people and form parties yourself and not look for a solo experience O_O"The flaw with that "logic" being a 5 man team (10 man game) in its own little instance is not MMORPG either, MMORPGs are meant to be 'massively multiplayer' (the clue is in the name), two teams of 5 is a co-op (normal multiplayer) game and as for being in an instance outside of the persistent world...Guild Wars 2 is a game, that game is a MMO and everything in that game is part of the MMO experience.... But let me understand your logic... If I'm playing with 30 friends, its MMO... But if I choose to party with some of them for PvP, Dungeons, fractals, raids or for any content in this game, then it is no longer an MMO game I'm playing?No not my point at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @zinkz.7045 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@zinkz.7045 said:@"Amaranthe.3578" said:I think you guys are misguided and absurd, youre playing a mmorppg, youre supposed to que up with other people and form parties yourself and not look for a solo experience O_O"The flaw with that "logic" being a 5 man team (10 man game) in its own little instance is not MMORPG either, MMORPGs are meant to be 'massively multiplayer' (the clue is in the name), two teams of 5 is a co-op (normal multiplayer) game and as for being in an instance outside of the persistent world...Guild Wars 2 is a game, that game is a MMO and everything in that game is part of the MMO experience.... But let me understand your logic... If I'm playing with 30 friends, its MMO... But if I choose to party with some of them for PvP, Dungeons, fractals, raids or for any content in this game, then it is no longer an MMO game I'm playing?No not my point at all.but you said that being in a PvP match is only 10 people which to you is just a regular normal multiplayer game, so off that logic raids and dungeons and fractals or anything that involved partying up with with friends would also fit that description. Which means... If I'm with 30 friends in the mists and making PvP teams, I'm not playing MMO... to play MMO, I would have to go to a world boss with 30 strangers I've never seen or spoken too just to fit into your ideals of MMO gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinkz.7045 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@zinkz.7045 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@zinkz.7045 said:@"Amaranthe.3578" said:I think you guys are misguided and absurd, youre playing a mmorppg, youre supposed to que up with other people and form parties yourself and not look for a solo experience O_O"The flaw with that "logic" being a 5 man team (10 man game) in its own little instance is not MMORPG either, MMORPGs are meant to be 'massively multiplayer' (the clue is in the name), two teams of 5 is a co-op (normal multiplayer) game and as for being in an instance outside of the persistent world...Guild Wars 2 is a game, that game is a MMO and everything in that game is part of the MMO experience.... But let me understand your logic... If I'm playing with 30 friends, its MMO... But if I choose to party with some of them for PvP, Dungeons, fractals, raids or for any content in this game, then it is no longer an MMO game I'm playing?No not my point at all.but you said that being in a PvP match is only 10 people which to you is just a regular normal multiplayer game, so off that logic raids and dungeons and fractals or anything that involved partying up with with friends would also fit that description. My point was about the other person's "logic", that if solo queuing doesn't fit the definition of an MMORPG, then on that basis neither does instanced 10 man content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 @SatdeNecro.2395 said:@HeadCrowned.6834 said:I only played something like 12 games so far, but almost all of them were of better quality than previous season. More engaging and entertaining. But yeh, I DuoQ'd myself. Previous season I felt that even when I 1v3'd all game I could still lose. Now I feel a much better impact on the game. Are you saying that is because you DuoQ? Or just mere coincidence this season?I think it is because I DuoQ'd yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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