Afterland.2951 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 So, im used to play with builds and stuff around and i got myself thinking: Can we make a 'viable' Hybrid Holo build for SPvP?Besides the classic Rifle builds Conversion or Static Holo, theres not much to see.I was thinking about something like S/P or P/P Hybrid, cause Holo kinda feels like the actual Weaver to me: Great sustain, a lot of Combo Finishers, Blasts and Leaps, besides the great DPS and utility it can provide.Blow Torch (Pistol 4) can deal a massive amount of damage, Glue Shot (Pistol 5) has great utility in a team fight and the burst would easily come from Quickness on Radiant Arc/Sigil of Agility or either Elixir U/Toss Elixir U. Vent Exaust on Holo traitline can dish a good amount of damage when dodging.Maybe using Firearms, Tools and Holo? Inventions?What do you guys think? Can we figure something out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I'll give it a crack later and post a game... Don't expect me to cap nodes though, I'll just see how many kills I can rake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afterland.2951 Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 I mean, im tryng to figure out some synergy between traits and skills to make something viable yet. Tell me if you got something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josif.2015 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Holosmith benefits mostly from power damage. The only time the sage's/hybrid bit works is outside of Photon Forge mode with the offhand pistol.Core engineer is the one that benefits the most from hybrid/condition damage. My custom build uses sage's amulet and it has more than one weapon that applies conditions even when using the rifle and I believe works better than a hybrid Holosmith build using sw/p or p/p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro.3176 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 @Afterland.2951 said:So, im used to play with builds and stuff around and i got myself thinking: Can we make a 'viable' Hybrid Holo build for SPvP?Besides the classic Rifle builds Conversion or Static Holo, theres not much to see.I was thinking about something like S/P or P/P Hybrid, cause Holo kinda feels like the actual Weaver to me: Great sustain, a lot of Combo Finishers, Blasts and Leaps, besides the great DPS and utility it can provide.Blow Torch (Pistol 4) can deal a massive amount of damage, Glue Shot (Pistol 5) has great utility in a team fight and the burst would easily come from Quickness on Radiant Arc/Sigil of Agility or either Elixir U/Toss Elixir U. Vent Exaust on Holo traitline can dish a good amount of damage when dodging.Maybe using Firearms, Tools and Holo? Inventions?What do you guys think? Can we figure something out?As someone who plays p/p engi in pvp/wvw, I don't think it'll work as well as you hope.Pistol 4 does indeed do a ridiculous amount of damage in theory. In practice, it does basically nothing. Almost all builds you will face have tons of on-demand condi clear. You'll be lucky to get 1 or 2 ticks off before it's cleansed. It feels SO BAD to use your main damage skill in melee range and hit 5 people only to have them ALL cleanse it instantly. Worse, if there's a support build like a FB around, that one player will cleanse everyone. You have to land blowtorch, then land about 4 or 5 cover condi on top of it to actually guarantee damage. Even then, it'll still get cleansed halfway through. The holo burns are good, but there aren't enough. You get a couple (= a few k damage) from traits and a bunch from Photon Blitz, but it's very limited in that if you miss with those first few attacks or PB, you lose out on all your condi. Even if you do hit them all, it's overall less damage than just speccing power and doing the usual holo yolo rotation and not caring about whether you hit the burning attacks or not.Glue shot is meh. It's still on a pretty long cooldown considering it doesn't last very long and it's easily cleansed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAsanUUBlXhFYB2aBcJjl3CDcDFiiAfpgJUAo/MmGfjA-jpwgABAs/AxlBAAthrew this together in a couple of minutes. might work? idk.edithttp://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqanUUBtbhlXB2aBcJjl3CrvMmGfjgboQUE4LFMhCAA-jJR6wAeLDA4BA87EAgZ/BAso after messin around for a few minutes this is what I ended up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josif.2015 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAsanUUBlXhFYB2aBcJjl3CDcDFiiAfpgJUAo/MmGfjA-jpwgABAs/AxlBAAthrew this together in a couple of minutes. might work? idk.You're using Firearms, yet you chose Sanguine Array over Chemical Rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 @Hoodie.1045 said:@"Stand The Wall.6987" said:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAsanUUBlXhFYB2aBcJjl3CDcDFiiAfpgJUAo/MmGfjA-jpwgABAs/AxlBAAthrew this together in a couple of minutes. might work? idk.You're using Firearms, yet you chose Sanguine Array over Chemical Rounds?it stacks might like crazy. duration isn't great vs cleanses.editin a team fight its pretty easy to reach 25 stacks with sanguine array. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 @"sephiroth.4217" said:I'll give it a crack later and post a game... Don't expect me to cap nodes though, I'll just see how many kills I can rake up.Think I went 18/2 or something with Wizards Ammy and Flame Legion Runes.. Rest of the build is in the video..Side note: I had no idea what I was doing but I imagine someone who mains Engie might be able to pull it off better than I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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