Poledra Val.1490 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I have mained guardian since the games release and I have to say that this skill without any reservation needs to be nerfed. A coordinated attack goes out the window with just the flick of a button from a Firebrand. Theres many ways to nerf it but personally speaking I want the cooldown on this signet to be heavily increased so the FB will have to think long and hard before they use it at any given situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Take a look at Necro rezzing as well while you're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @"sephiroth.4217" said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @Crab Fear.1624 said:@"sephiroth.4217" said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UfoCoffee.2084 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UfoCoffee.2084 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning versionMaybe it's an EU/US thing? Whenever you had scourge and FB on a point at the start of the game people would focus the FB because even though the scourge is easier to burst down 1. Obviously the FB is healing him and giving him boons but also 2. You down the scourge and he gets ressed as generally the scourge was focused by range DPS but the FB can Res whilst blocking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning versionMaybe it's an EU/US thing? Whenever you had scourge and FB on a point at the start of the game people would focus the FB because even though the scourge is easier to burst down 1. Obviously the FB is healing him and giving him boons but also 2. You down the scourge and he gets ressed as generally the scourge was focused by range DPS but the FB can Res whilst blocking that. Yea hence my comment earlier... good teams will focus the FB first and he aint going to be using the signet from death or on himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning versionMaybe it's an EU/US thing? Whenever you had scourge and FB on a point at the start of the game people would focus the FB because even though the scourge is easier to burst down 1. Obviously the FB is healing him and giving him boons but also 2. You down the scourge and he gets ressed as generally the scourge was focused by range DPS but the FB can Res whilst blocking that. Yea hence my comment earlier... good teams will focus the FB first and he aint going to be using the signet from death or on himself.Signet of Mercy is meta for Firebrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning versionMaybe it's an EU/US thing? Whenever you had scourge and FB on a point at the start of the game people would focus the FB because even though the scourge is easier to burst down 1. Obviously the FB is healing him and giving him boons but also 2. You down the scourge and he gets ressed as generally the scourge was focused by range DPS but the FB can Res whilst blocking that. Yea hence my comment earlier... good teams will focus the FB first and he aint going to be using the signet from death or on himself.Signet of Mercy is meta for Firebrand. Thats cool aye that off meta is becoming meta... now im gunna have to drop the signet ?Ahwell, if people wanna nerf the guardian for acting like a guardian then so be it.... I welcome any skill that can change the tide of battles but I wont argue with those that dislike it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The cooldown is low and hard to interrupt because firebrand has a lot of stability. The combination of this two things makes it a bit broken so a cooldown increase wouldnt be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknicrofia.2604 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning versionMaybe it's an EU/US thing? Whenever you had scourge and FB on a point at the start of the game people would focus the FB because even though the scourge is easier to burst down 1. Obviously the FB is healing him and giving him boons but also 2. You down the scourge and he gets ressed as generally the scourge was focused by range DPS but the FB can Res whilst blocking that. Yea hence my comment earlier... good teams will focus the FB first and he aint going to be using the signet from death or on himself.Signet of Mercy is meta for Firebrand. Thats cool aye that off meta is becoming meta... now im gunna have to drop the signet ?Ahwell, if people wanna nerf the guardian for acting like a guardian then so be it.... I welcome any skill that can change the tide of battles but I wont argue with those that dislike it.its been meta for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @Darknicrofia.2604 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@UfoCoffee.2084 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:Isn't the signet on a 3 minute cool down?The Signet also has a long cast time too does it not?The Signet fails a lot aswell, doesn't always rez.The radius is sooooooo small that a Mesmer using 2 will port himself out of a rez.I've only seen one other player in game running the SignetSurely this is a joke thread?it is 90s cd in pvp/wvw, but i don't know much else about this "issue"Shows how little I use the Signet as only one of my guards use it lmao even then its mostly for the passive healing gain....Its too unreliable, can get disrupted, people get stomped before the cast time has gone off and thieves, ele and mesmers usually port out mid cast... ontop of that, a good team will make sure they focus me which means I can only use the signet if they practically ignore me because they have a hard on for the nec im protecting.Are you joking? Talking PvP/ WvW only here. It's one of the best skills that FB has that makes them an amazing support. Has something changed recently? I haven't been playing this season yet. Im confused because every match ive ran it, Ive had nothing but flak for it.... people even quit before the game starts and forum elitists told me its worthless several times for several seasons now unless the build I posted is now starting to get used?A variant of the build I originally posted can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54887/instant-revives-should-not-exist-in-spvp#latestIts the burning versionMaybe it's an EU/US thing? Whenever you had scourge and FB on a point at the start of the game people would focus the FB because even though the scourge is easier to burst down 1. Obviously the FB is healing him and giving him boons but also 2. You down the scourge and he gets ressed as generally the scourge was focused by range DPS but the FB can Res whilst blocking that. Yea hence my comment earlier... good teams will focus the FB first and he aint going to be using the signet from death or on himself.Signet of Mercy is meta for Firebrand. Thats cool aye that off meta is becoming meta... now im gunna have to drop the signet ?Ahwell, if people wanna nerf the guardian for acting like a guardian then so be it.... I welcome any skill that can change the tide of battles but I wont argue with those that dislike it.its been meta for months now.And its been in one of my 6 guardian builds since HoT but no matter I dropped it and having fun with elite spirit combined with search and rescues on my downtime from spamming Three Round Bursts and DJ lmaoIts really amusing teleporting and rezzing a whole team but fails hard when I have competent team mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaogin.2679 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Yeah, been meta for quite some time now. And it is actually easy to use considering you have quickness, aegis, and stability at your disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknicrofia.2604 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Its extremely easy to use since the cast time is shorter than any stomp attemptCookie basically hard carried the EU Monthly tournament with Mercy resses in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booms.2594 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 @Darknicrofia.2604 said:Its extremely easy to use since the cast time is shorter than any stomp attemptCookie basically hard carried the EU Monthly tournament with Mercy resses in August.only cuz ppl on eu dont know how to use cc's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagg.9236 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Why not remove downed from PvP and then reduce respawn timers by 10s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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