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Second Skin + Moa Stance stack 66% damage reduction?


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Moa Stance is 66% boon duration bonus, not damage reduction

Second Skin makes it so Protection reduces condition damage by 33% (because base effect of protection affects direct damage, not condition damage)

So from Moa Stance, you get Protection, which base reduces direct damage by 33% and with Second Skin, also reduces condi damage by same amount

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@ProtoMarcus.7649 said:Moa Stance is 66% boon duration bonus, not damage reduction

I know somehow you corected in the end , but Moa Stance also gives you "Protection (3s): -33% Incoming Damage" ....

So, with trait "Protective Ward"+Moa Stance you get 66% Damage Reduction? and in the same time because of Second Skin you get another 33% Condi Damage Reduction ?

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@Dragonzhunter.8506 said:

@ProtoMarcus.7649 said:Moa Stance is 66% boon duration bonus, not damage reduction

I know somehow you corected in the end , but Moa Stance also gives you "Protection (3s): -33% Incoming Damage" ....

Protection base is directOnly traited (with Second Skin) does it cover condition

Edit: Protection is a general boon, not a moa stance-specific effect

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@ProtoMarcus.7649 said:Edit: Protection is a general boon, not a moa stance-specific effect

Yes, you right, but I made a build based on boon duration. In traits line I have Protective Ward ho gives me 7s 33% Damage Reduction ... In the same time in Moa Stance description said I get 5s 33%Damage Reduction, this means I will get 33% Damage Reduction for 7s+5s = 12 s ? (ofc when I get damage so Protective Ward activated)

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@Dragonzhunter.8506 said:

@ProtoMarcus.7649 said:Edit: Protection is a general boon, not a moa stance-specific effect

Yes, you right, but I made a build based on boon duration. In traits line I have Protective Ward ho gives me 7s 33% Damage Reduction ... In the same time in Moa Stance description said I get 5s 33%Damage Reduction, this means I will get 33% Damage Reduction for 7s+5s = 12 s ? (ofc when I get damage so Protective Ward activated)

If you're asking about duration, yes it stacks, and it also benefits from the boon duration bonus of the stance effect if it's up when gaining the boons

But effectiveness stays at 33% damage reduction

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@Dragonzhunter.8506 said:Also can be possible that condi damage reduction be 66% due to Protective Ward + Second Skin ? Because Protective Ward is a core trait and this one gives you -33%Incoming Damage this means power and condi, right?!

Unfortunately no as again, the Core Protection effect (not traited with Second Skin) only affects direct/power damage, not Condition Damage

So without Second Skin, even with protection, you take full condition damage

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@ProtoMarcus.7649 said:Unfortunately no as again, the Core Protection effect (not traited with Second Skin) only affects direct/power damage, not Condition DamageAre you sure? Because is saying -33% Incoming damage ... and damage it's coming from power and condi. On all utility they specify when you don't take damage due the utility still you are susceptible of condi damage.

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Also, be aware that damage reductions and modifiers stack multiplicatively, not by addition.

So, for instance; You are using food with 10% damage reduction, you have the Protection boon (-33% direct damage) on you and use the shout skill "Guard!" (-33% direct damage). At first you may think that is 10+33+33=76% damage reduction, but that is calculating additively not multiplicatively.

The damage reduction would be (1 - (0.66 x 0.66 x 0.9)) = 0.60796. This is a 60.8% damage reduction, not 76%

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