I want to hit like a truck

[Crab Fear.1624]

Our damage doesn't need to be low.You don't have to cater to the lowest common denominator.If you want to make baddies feel good.....

BUFF THIEF

[Safandula.8723]

Most of whining on this forum is a l2p issue. Thief hits like a truck... Deal with it

[Kawloon Fuathach.3807]

My favorite part about playing Thief is when someone complains about how much damage they just took, or how fast they died. Such sweet, sweet salt tears~

[Schnitzel.8270]

have you tried becoming a deadeye, clicking the deadeye mark button, spamming rifle 3 a few times, roll around a couple times then stealth and fire?

[Crab Fear.1624]

@Safandula.8723 said:Most of whining on this forum is a l2p issue. Thief hits like a truck... Deal with it

then comparably, others hit like a train.

so, to one up that....i now want to hit like an extinction event meteor

[Safandula.8723]

Daredevil critical strikes build. While having 15k hp i vault for 14k, only issue for this build are s/d or d/p thiefs that know how clunky are staff animations and when to interrupt. Yes thief is in good spot and it dont need buffs. Just delete stealth on Dodge for DE and its Perfect. Stealth on kneel was better imo

[Fat Disgrace.4275]

Wouldn't argue with dagger and sword AA role back

[InsaneQR.7412]

That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

[Alatar.7364]

@InsaneQR.7412 said:That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

That's DE.I dare assume OP means Daredevil or Core.

[DeceiverX.8361]

@InsaneQR.7412 said:That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

Odds are they aren't talking about raids or PvE.

While the thief can deal massive damage in the PvP modes contrary to what people are claiming (In the way it does for PvE: stacking damage modifiers better than every other class in the game), it only occurs by sacrificing literally everything for it, and it's not capable of generating the stats it first needs consistently over the course of a fight (25 might pre-stacked, etc.). The builds which feature huge damage are objectively bad because they're literally defenseless in most cases.

This wasn't a problem in the past, but with everyone running around with so much constant negation, the lack of consistency nor defenses when speccing for damage puts the thief on the backfoot and pumping lower numbers most of the time.

Unfortunately, there's no fix except nerfing other professions, including the Deadeye. The thief's upper limit on damage is still extremely high, and its defensive traitlines are very strong independently, which can make a skilled thief very hard to kill; by buffing the baseline it only makes really good players basically unstoppable killing machines, and it further also buffs DE every time a buff to core comes through.

ANet has repeatedly nerfed core to nerf DE, much to the class's detriment, and never actually tweaked other professions or adjusted the baseline to really make the class more capable and consistent without being numerically oppressive.

[TorQ.7041]

@"InsaneQR.7412" said:That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

Raids have nothing to do with pvp. Like the other guy said. In pvp it is the lowest dmg because you can't run the raid spec in pvp. You would instantly die. All other classes do more damage and have more survivablity in pvp. That's why thief had been placed in a run away "decap" class.

It's also not relevant to WvW either since in pvp you are in constant battle. In WvW you can one shot then take as much time as you like to reset.

[Fat Disgrace.4275]

@TorQ.7041 said:

@InsaneQR.7412 said:That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

It's also not relevant to WvW either since in pvp you are in constant battle. In WvW you can one shot then take as much time as you like to reset.

Well, depends if you're defending a camp, but I guess why would you play a de for that ;p

[InsaneQR.7412]

@TorQ.7041 said:

@"InsaneQR.7412" said:That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

Raids have nothing to do with pvp. Like the other guy said. In pvp it is the lowest dmg because you can't run the raid spec in pvp. You would instantly die. All other classes do more damage and have more survivablity in pvp. That's why thief had been placed in a run away "decap" class.

It's also not relevant to WvW either since in pvp you are in constant battle. In WvW you can one shot then take as much time as you like to reset.

Thief still can one shot. Tbh yes DE can one shot. Thief has easy acces to stealth to though and can crit 100% out of it. Still can bring a glass player to knees in 1.Thief can hit like a truck. It cannot survive a bicicle though.

[Alatar.7364]

@InsaneQR.7412 said:

@TorQ.7041 said:

@InsaneQR.7412 said:That moment complains that thief does not enough dmg while its top tier dps in raids. Lmao

Raids have nothing to do with pvp. Like the other guy said. In pvp it is the lowest dmg because you can't run the raid spec in pvp. You would instantly die. All other classes do more damage and have more survivablity in pvp. That's why thief had been placed in a run away "decap" class.

It's also not relevant to WvW either since in pvp you are in constant battle. In WvW you can one shot then take as much time as you like to reset.

Thief still can one shot. Tbh yes DE can one shot. Thief has easy acces to stealth to though and can crit 100% out of it. Still can bring a glass player to knees in 1.Thief can hit like a truck. It cannot survive a bicicle though.

That's DE.I dare assume OP means Daredevil or Core.

In PvP Thief can't one-shot anyone or anything, and please don't try to be one of those people who think "one-shoting" 11k HP Zerker Ele with fully dedicated Build and Utilities means Thief hits like a truck. It doesn't.

Also, just to add "having high dmg" is not something that is (or should be) exclusive to one-shoting bursts, for example Id prefer AA and/or few weapon skills dmg increase, rather than gaining access to one-shoting capabilities by buffing some traits and combos.