Silence.3702 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Modes - We are desperetely lacking modes,rewards, features and more attractions for PVPAnet should know that competitively is what makes games popular and famous , PVE will only get you so far.Example for modes: 2V2, 1V1 , Gear based SPVP , betting system, battle royal . Start convering pve into PVP just like you convert pvp into pve !Classes:Mirage - Nerf it, its self explanatoryDeadeye - Rework is needed, its the most one sided non intereactve class, its basically a x minutes marhathon of A player using stealth and shooting someone trying to chase him.its not fun,its annoying and it leaves 0 place for skillSpellbreaker - Its on the other end of being not balanced, but still in the grey area, a bit too strong but still it all comes to skill, Berserk maybe should get a hitHolosmith - Balanced(Yes,holo is balanced)Reaper - BalancedRanger - BalancedGuardian - BalancedRev- Below balancedEle - Below balancedSystem-No solo Q should ever have anything to do with party Q ,thats revoking any form of skill based elo, the whole point of any Solo league is that it's SOLO its been proven repeatedly that the only way to climb up in a solo q of 5v5 is by having 53~ winrate percent(which is considred high) , adding 2 players to a solo q renders it into a clown fiesta game, and convets it into a somewhat carry - sellout - random games where you are stuck at 1500 elo because your team is just that inconsistent while having players at plat league because their guild boost themHow can such fun PVP and combat system be so unbalanced and neglected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigo.9037 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 the game is dead honestly. anet should have made better choices for pvp back when they cared at all. if they made something like 2v2 instead of stronghold they would be more successful. they fucked up, realized they got 0 return on investment in pvp and decided to never do anything except balance patches ever again. Same with wvw. they add 1 more map that adds another dimension to the game ( vertical ) but players didn't like it so anet will never ever take chances in wve again.alliances are so far off that it's essentially useless. no old players will return just because of alliances. it's just the same old wvw but with slightly different teams woooo amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Rev below balanced?M'ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jportell.2197 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 @Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 @jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. As a power shiro rev (did i just assume your build?, sue me!) , I don't think you're meant to have it easy vs condi spec, at least not something like a scourge, most melee has issues with it. Can you imagine how crazy strong power shiro rev will be if they had some more Condi cleanse? Not much would stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranthe.3578 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Holosmith is balanced....right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jportell.2197 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. As a power shiro rev (did i just assume your build?, sue me!) , I don't think you're meant to have it easy vs condi spec, at least not something like a scourge, most melee has issues with it. Can you imagine how crazy strong power shiro rev will be if they had some more Condi cleanse? Not much would stop it.I was actually the mirage. But the point is people in PvP esp in this community will call for things to be gutted even if they don't understand the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanya.1697 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I think that for most of the players the game is just too fast so especially classes that can dish out crazy bursts are prone to getting yelled at that they need to be nerfedit does not help you much if you understand a class but cant react to it as it is all over in milliseconds and staying out of reach as much as possible is not possible against most burst classes either so yeah no idea how to fix thismaybe anet can send us drugs to improve our reaction time as they are apprently unwilling to go away from the fps styleback to a slower paced more tactical use of skills style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 @jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman.1532 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Stale. Same 3-4 do it all classes. Same objectives that many players ignore. Baddies that push far even though they lack the skill.Spammity spam spamGoing ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveraptor.9603 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2V2 arenas will be a colossal failure if they won't balance some classes before implementing it.Otherwise FB+Scourge and double mirages will rule 2v2 and cause even more outrage.FB+scourge is in particular broken beyond any measure right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble.4580 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Rev and eng are the two most top classes for me but no1 else because they are hard to master so op goes to the button bashing classes but put a good eng rev duo in any game and they will never loose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jportell.2197 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @jportell.2197 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. I personally think it should be a cosmetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @jportell.2197 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. More than reasonable request, of course since this is GW2, Next Patch:Elusive Mind exhaustion increased to 25 secs.Infinite Horrizon no longer affects illusions, it just does nothing at all.Dune cloak, well you'll be hard pressed to make it work worse than it already does.Oh yea and Mirage Mirrors are now the only source of Mirage Cloak. RIP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranthe.3578 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @Arlette.9684 said:@jportell.2197 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. More than reasonable request, of course since this is GW2, Next Patch:Elusive Mind exhaustion increased to 25 secs.Infinite Horrizon no longer affects illusions, it just does nothing at all.Dune cloak, well you'll be hard pressed to make it work worse than it already does.Oh yea and Mirage Mirrors are now the only source of Mirage Cloak. RIP!Dune cloak actually works rather well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jportell.2197 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Amaranthe.3578 said:@Arlette.9684 said:@jportell.2197 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. More than reasonable request, of course since this is GW2, Next Patch:Elusive Mind exhaustion increased to 25 secs.Infinite Horrizon no longer affects illusions, it just does nothing at all.Dune cloak, well you'll be hard pressed to make it work worse than it already does.Oh yea and Mirage Mirrors are now the only source of Mirage Cloak. RIP!Dune cloak actually works rather well.I don't like this trait. I feel like it's very lackluster esp compared to infinite horizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 The state of PvP: The inmates are running the asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @jportell.2197 said:@Amaranthe.3578 said:@Arlette.9684 said:@jportell.2197 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. More than reasonable request, of course since this is GW2, Next Patch:Elusive Mind exhaustion increased to 25 secs.Infinite Horrizon no longer affects illusions, it just does nothing at all.Dune cloak, well you'll be hard pressed to make it work worse than it already does.Oh yea and Mirage Mirrors are now the only source of Mirage Cloak. RIP!Dune cloak actually works rather well.I don't like this trait. I feel like it's very lackluster esp compared to infinite horizon If either of you think this trait is anything but completely useless you should probably never comment on balance changes. They don't even use this in PvE where you can control where mirrors are and where 20% duration would be always on let alone PvP/WvW where you'd have no control and situational use at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @jportell.2197 said:@sephiroth.4217 said:@Crab Fear.1624 said:@jportell.2197 said:@Alatar.7364 said:Rev below balanced?M'ok...You know I did some ranked matches last night where I got matched against a scourge. I never once was in a fight against this person in the entire match. Just rotated around his ridiculous AOE spam that covers entire points. At the end of each match all he did was gripe about mirage. Even though I never once went up against him. I swear man people will do anything to see this spec nerfed. Which I feel the only thing that needs changed on mirage, is make the dodge unusable while stunned. Everything else is fine. It doesn't even have the best condition application in the game atm. It needs a nerf though. Everyone keep griping th mantra until it is in everyone's head.Be loud enough until Mirage is earthbound To me its just dodging while stunned / casting / rezzing...Other issue I have is PC related, a good mes spamming visual clutter usually leaves only name plates visible and I have to rely on what AoE is ticking for less than the others Dodging while stunned needs to go. However casting, stomping, ressing during the mirage cloak is what the class is designed around. If you get rid of all of that may as well scrap the spec as a whole. I also cant think of any spec that works outside the parameters of every other spec while also being the only spec to recieve 2 upgrades with the latest expansion being mirage cloak and ambush skills.. Its just my opinion though on why I think it should have not gone past cosmetic changes, EM wouldnt have to be touched if this was the case, just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGFiD.1760 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I think the easiest way to improve gw2 pvp is to focus on something else other than conquest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Silence.3702 said:Holosmith - Balanced(Yes,holo is balanced)no, it's not. as long as it's like it is....PUKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jportell.2197 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Crab Fear.1624 said:@Silence.3702 said:Holosmith - Balanced(Yes,holo is balanced)no, it's not. as long as it's like it is....PUKEApparently boonbeast is balanced to omglaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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