Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Come on. Give it a shot.Mix it up.We had the same old, same old for 8 seasons now.No one is any happier now than they were then.People screech about no titles, but the duo q kept the population alive; it actually seemed larger (even if just a tiny bit).How is it that the competitive prize was removed, but the population seemed a bit fuller?Unlock teams for a season, it's the least you can do with how long we need to wait for swiss and on-demand.So what if a couple loud forums guys say no. Newer players, much like the ones in my guild, actually enjoy playing on teams and voice comms.Just let us queue up......Just DO it ✔ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrauls.6519 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Woooooo. Be careful what you ask for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder.3719 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 It should be called Guild Vs Guild or a 5vs5 Team Ranked ladder.It would be the easiest way to make PvP exciting again without actually making new content.Obviously it would be a huge hit, but would be extremely important to keep it separate from the current Ranked PvP system.Although I would prefer actual new content with new maps for 10 vs 10 GvG PvP, I doubt this will ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 100% Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 So the top 10 will be like 120-0 on the leaderboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 @Malediktus.9250 said:So the top 10 will be like 120-0 on the leaderboard?why not? the rest of us that never get there anyways will be having a blast.are you top 10? I honestly don't know, but if you are not, does it even matter to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 deleted. /15 chars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virelion.4128 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 With current rating system it would be unfair as kitten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abazigal.3679 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Why not, actually, if we are trying to be any honest, the titles removal/duo queue allowed didn't change anything. Still the same people on the top, still completly random matchs in gold. Having 5 man teams allowed would at least make some fun and organizations in hearts of the mists.However, if any change, they need to make everyone start at 1200 rating, otherwise nothing is going to change and top people are all going to remain at their spot with no effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 5 man is fine as long as the matchmaker is programmed to never ever under ANY circumstances pit 5 man against anything other than another 5 man.There is no such thing as a good match of 5 organized people on discord vs 5 solo Q randos. Currently the MM is such that it will "try" to pit premades vs other premades, but gives up after about 5 minutes of queue and proceeds to match whatever. This should basically never happen. IDC if this means premades sit in queue for 20+ minutes I'd rather wait for one good game then be forced to participate in some god forsaken trash match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 5v5 Ranked would be a good way to practice for monthly tournaments and ATs.At the moment, the only ways to practice as a team are:Unranked (in which case you get threads like this)Automated Tournaments (500-0 until the finals)In-houses/scrims (takes too much effort to organize and players don't care enough)Plus, the only thing "unfair" would be the skill difference. However, the skill gap would also encourage teams to practice hard to beat the people at the top. Thus, competition will increase, you'll see an influx in the population as many groups of 5 now have a reason to sPvP (as the leaderboards will actually matter), and PvP guilds will return to the game. Also, if the only way to place high on the leaderboard is to play with a team, you'll find that a large portion of the population will now begin to look for other players to work with. This enforces teamwork and creates a more friendly environment.Solo que encourages selfish gameplay and is in no way healthy for a team-based gamemode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @"Malediktus.9250" said:So the top 10 will be like 120-0 on the leaderboard?Actually, if you played ATs you'd realize those top 10 players aren't nearly as good as win trading makes them look. You can form a plat 1/2 team and give those guys a run for their money or even sometimes beat them, and that's when you're with a rando unpolished team who has never practiced together. God forbid a group of 5 people actually cared enough to seriously practice for a monthly AT, it wouldn't be too hard to match their clout. It's just that no one practices together as a team like that anymore after GW2 left the ESL, so there is a serious lack of technical team skills nowadays.Telling ya, if they reintroduced a 5v5 team based leaderboard, people would practice again and things would balance out. I don't want to hear "GW2 is too casual, the player base likes it casual" because the truth is that Arenanet's decisions is what made GW2 so casual by limiting our options for competitive play. It wasn't some driving mentality of the player base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 The only gamemode solo que only would make sense in is Ranked Duels (1v1s). 1v1s rely solely on YOUR mechanical skill, not your teammates'.For duo, Ranked 2v2s.For teams, Conquest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi.6027 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I'd like to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Seasons 1-4 sucked dick once you got to legend and faced only tryhard premades. Will be worse when there’s a leaderboard now and titles for it. Just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @Malediktus.9250 said:So the top 10 will be like 120-0 on the leaderboard?Do they take turns in queue so they dont match against each other or somethin?Titles were removed this season but yet somehow this season, the season that allowed atleast 2 players to queue together in a team game, felt more populated than what it was for the last 7 seasons.Could only imagine the influx of players if they allowed titles AND team play again.(I really like shadows idea few posts up actually, ranked solo as 1v1... 1 node, first to 100 maybe?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuvola.9460 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 LMAO, PLS DON'T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @BeLZedaR.4790 said:Seasons 1-4 sucked kitten once you got to legend and faced only tryhard premades. Will be worse when there’s a leaderboard now and titles for it. Just stop. Yea we had a decent population back then didnt we? Not that we had those ranks back then, they were sapphire and ruby or somethin if I remember correctly but still a very healthy population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 @sephiroth.4217 said:@BeLZedaR.4790 said:Seasons 1-4 sucked kitten once you got to legend and faced only tryhard premades. Will be worse when there’s a leaderboard now and titles for it. Just stop. Yea we had a decent population back then didnt we? Not that we had those ranks back then, they were sapphire and ruby or somethin if I remember correctly but still a very healthy population.Yeah you mean before “endgame of competition” (aka esports) was removed a lot of good players naturally played. What a shocker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I love how PvPers on this forum pretend like they have friends to queue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Enabling duoQ in a 5v5 gamemode already made this unfair. Who cares if it's even more unfair? The ladder isnt showing personal skill anyway so... lets enable teams!And after that please add a competetive gamemode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizigmar.2681 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Bazsi.2734 said:Enabling duoQ in a 5v5 gamemode already made this unfair. Who cares if it's even more unfair? The ladder isnt showing personal skill anyway so... lets enable teams!And after that please add a competetive gamemode.'Competitive gamemode' should not be texted on these forums it's a myth, you're not a competative player unless you've got that $$$ for the MATs and LB spots LEL. Gibbe 5 man party Plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milego.4830 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 As long teams can only be matched up against other team, I don't really care. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I support it so long as it's a separate queue with separate ratingsWould be 100% fantastic except for the issue of splitting the playerbase, reducing the size of either group. Though at the same time, it would also bring more people in, so it might be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega.5791 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Seperate queue will be hard. They should just work on how teams get put into matches - only similar team sizes and ratings on both teams, for example. Or reduce the impact of unbalanced games for solo players. And of course seperate ratings.Just put in some effort to make it fair. Yeah, I am naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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