DonArkanio.6419 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Hey there!I was thinking more and more about the amount of effects we have in game and it's huge. Now don't get me wrong, I love that we have many to choose from. For me, the problem lies in the amount of conditions and boons each class has access too. This leads to some serious issues and very flat gameplay mechanics.Let's take for example "Shake it off!" (<-Warrior's Shout) and "Soothing Stone" (<- Revenant's Jalis' Heal)[i WILL SKIP SOME CHANGES FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY]CONDITIONSNow, I'll provide some examples of adding conditions to class (or its weapons) in order to make it functional. It's because other classes already had so many conditions (or condi cleanse) that some other felt underwhelming because of it. So, let's add some condis, shall we?Temporal Rift (Revenant Axe 5 Skill):2015 - Inflicts 3 stacks of Torment2017 - (add.) Inflicts 3 stacks of ConfusionFurther changes on Confusion inflicted by this skillSignet of Shadows (Thief's Utility Skill):2012 - On use inflicts 5s of Blindness to nearby enemies2017 - (add.) Inflicts Weakness and 10 stacks of Vulnerability Ghastly Breach (Scourge's Skill):(Under specific circumstanecs) Inflicts: Torment, Cripple, Burning, Slow and MightVoice of Truth (Firebrand's Skill):Inflicts Vulnerability, Immobilize, Weakness and BlindnessEcho of Truth (Firebrand's Skill):Inflicts Cripple, Weakness and BlindnessLet's take for example "Shake it off!" (<-Warrior's Shout) and "Soothing Stone" (<- Revenant's Jalis' Heal).The need of flat-condi removal for the sake of "healthy" gameplay."Shake it off!":2012 - Breaks stun,2013 - (add.) Removes 2 conditionsMarch 2018 - Removes 3 conditions in PvP/WvWJuly 2018 - Removes 6 conditions (2 charges (1 per 50s) in PvP WvW "Soothing Stone":2015 - Removes 3 conditions, grants 2s Retaliation for each condition removed <---- Kind of a fun mechanic2018 - Removes 5 conditions (no longer split between game-modes) + 5 flat seconds of Retaliation <------ Flat gameplayWhat I mean here is that these 2 skills had to adapt to the amount of conditions applied by other classes (Or themselves). Ammunition mechanic is a great idea but here, we can see that it's used to flat-cleanse a packet of condis that somoene inflicted.BOONSWhile more and more conditions are added to each classes there has to be some counterplay to it. So, what happens here is that we have tons of boons application and boon removal. The need of boon application in order to counter the amount of conditions other apply is increasing. Guardian:Hallowed Ground - applies StabilityContemplation of Purity - converts conditions into Boons"Hold the Line!" - applies Protection and Regeneration"Retreat!" - applies Aegis and Swiftness"Save Yourselves!" - grants Fury, Might, Protection, Regeneration, Resistance, Retaliation, Swiftness and Vigor"Stand Your Ground!" - grants Stability and Retaliation*Firebrand:Azure Sun - grants Vigor, Regeneration and SwiftnessRanger (Soulbeast):Dolyak Stance (6s): Prevent movement-impeding conditions from being inflicted on you. grants Retaliation and Stabilityremoves Immobilize, Chill, CrippleBreaks StunMoa Stance: Increase the duration of boons by 66%grants Protection, Swiftness, Fury and RegenerationThis is the kind of mechanic that makes sense in terms of skill usage but still - there are tools designed specifically for boon removal because sometiems there is no way to get through the number of boons some classes have. I'm not trying to hate on any class, just trying to make a point that this is what happens when we have so much stuff going on in single skills.Revenant:Banish Enchantment - removes 2 boons from your target and applies Confusion This is the amount of buffs and conditions that some classes have. What I'd love to know is - would you like this amount to be normalized per class? Do you think that the Condition Application/Removal and Boon Application/Removal mechanics should be updated or reworked? Share your thoughts!Thanks for your time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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