SkyShroud.2865 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 https://clips.twitch.tv/FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPowerA small QOL change. It will still continue to decay in WvW, the timer will just stop after you exit WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 What seriously? Then what's the point of even having participation build up if you're always going to be maxed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draygo.9473 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 This way players are not penalized through lost rewards by jumping from WvW directly into PvP matches or PvE content.You can still tick down in wvw if you want, this change will not stop that, or you can just preserve your current reward level the next time you jump into wvw. I like this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambi.6214 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 @Dawdler.8521 said:What seriously? Then what's the point of even having participation build up if you're always going to be maxed?Well it's probably going to decay while you'r offline, so unless you keep your computer running all the time, it's not going to be maxed all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I welcome this. Sometimes you just want to take a little break or kill a world boss or something and you can do it without getting punished outside of maybe having to queue up again worst case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 @Samug.6512 said:@"Dawdler.8521" said:What seriously? Then what's the point of even having participation build up if you're always going to be maxed?Well it's probably going to decay while you'r offline, so unless you keep your computer running all the time, it's not going to be maxed all the time.Well either way I think it is just a sly way to "encourage" WvWers to boost the online PvE population just so they can come back with participation, not really help WvW or give it QoL. Because rest assured, lazy people will keep their computing running all the time just because of this... Anet might as well use that. /tinfoilhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liston.9708 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Helps to remove queues when people draw down on queues maps instead of os or elsewhere. Yes some will still draw down, but many will simply log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrolan.9608 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 @Samug.6512 said:@Dawdler.8521 said:What seriously? Then what's the point of even having participation build up if you're always going to be maxed?Well it's probably going to decay while you'r offline, so unless you keep your computer running all the time, it's not going to be maxed all the time.No it will only decay if you're in WvW doing nothing, once you leave WvW the timer will stop. Its an OTT solution to the issue of not cashing out but its a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Yea would like this change so I dont have to stand around doing nothing untill i got all my rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugeboss.5432 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm way too lazy to keep my computer on when I logout with t6 participation (I do it all the time lol). I think for most players, we all know we will easily max our weekly pips anyway, but it will help wvw players QOL in general so we too can also have showers and cool stuff like that. I like it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokriphos.7042 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 When will this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I wonder if a minimum amount of time is needed in WvW before a tick is counted?With some effort, getting to T6, then popping in and out of WvW for each tick could theoretically give many ticks for little to no time in WvW.Do flax farm: pop back into WvWFarm nodes, pop back into WvW.And I am sure many other things are possible with little effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djamonja.6453 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Doesn't really seem worth the effort to hop back into WvW every 5 mins for the tick. Maybe they'll make it not give anything for the first tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 @"SkyShroud.2865" said:https://clips.twitch.tv/FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPowerA small QOL change. It will still continue to decay in WvW, the timer will just stop after you exit WvW.So you want to keep max participation at all times? Do you feel it's that hard to actually play and build up your participation again? Do you feel it best if the devs just handed out rewards simply for loading in to wvw? How easy do we want reward systems to be under your vision? Edit- It's helpful if you clearly state for readers that what you are posting is an official dev communication... "From Stephane Lo Presti....xxclips...FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPower" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djamonja.6453 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 @Swagger.1459 said:@"SkyShroud.2865" said:https://clips.twitch.tv/FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPowerA small QOL change. It will still continue to decay in WvW, the timer will just stop after you exit WvW.So you want to keep max participation at all times? Do you feel it's that hard to actually play and build up your participation again? Do you feel it best if the devs just handed out rewards simply for loading in to wvw? How easy do we want reward systems to be under your vision? I see it more of a way to get more people to get back into WvW after they've been doing fractals or raiding or whatever. They're more likely to get back into WvW if they know they'll get a reward on the next tick. I agree it's not that hard to get participation back up, but I don't mind people getting an extra chest or two once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I will try to abuse it very hard once it's live just to see if it's possible. I'm sure if it gets too bad and we really see people pop in every 4:30 to get the tick (since you only get it 10 seconds after 5 min are over just to be sure) they could change it so that leaving and reentering takes away 1 tier of participation or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @Djamonja.6453 said:Doesn't really seem worth the effort to hop back into WvW every 5 mins for the tick. Maybe they'll make it not give anything for the first tick.Tier 6 takes once it starts degrading, takes 12 minutes to get below pip level. If we assume 30 seconds used each time trying to get pips, that’s 24 ticks for what someone else might get two to three. Yes, it’s extreme, but far from unlikely.That isn’t even including the 10 minutes that one would likely leave WvW after getting. (Another theoretical 20 ticks.)If all you are doing is some map competion stuff while popping in and out of WvW? Or node farming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Waste of Dev time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sostronk.8167 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @Swagger.1459 said:@"SkyShroud.2865" said:https://clips.twitch.tv/FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPowerA small QOL change. It will still continue to decay in WvW, the timer will just stop after you exit WvW.So you want to keep max participation at all times? Do you feel it's that hard to actually play and build up your participation again? Do you feel it best if the devs just handed out rewards simply for loading in to wvw? How easy do we want reward systems to be under your vision? I feel like I am losing out if I don't AFK in WvW for 20 minutes after I am done playing WvW for the time being. Feelsbadman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @sostronk.8167 said:@Swagger.1459 said:@"SkyShroud.2865" said:https://clips.twitch.tv/FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPowerA small QOL change. It will still continue to decay in WvW, the timer will just stop after you exit WvW.So you want to keep max participation at all times? Do you feel it's that hard to actually play and build up your participation again? Do you feel it best if the devs just handed out rewards simply for loading in to wvw? How easy do we want reward systems to be under your vision? I feel like I am losing out if I don't AFK in WvW for 20 minutes after I am done playing WvW for the time being. Feelsbadman.A lot of people have asked for a "cash out" function. That's probably what the devs will do at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Here’s hoping it decays if you are online. Logging out, I have no problem with it staying at the level you logged out at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @Blocki.4931 said:I will try to abuse it very hard once it's live just to see if it's possible. I'm sure if it gets too bad and we really see people pop in every 4:30 to get the tick (since you only get it 10 seconds after 5 min are over just to be sure) they could change it so that leaving and reentering takes away 1 tier of participation or something.well this will miss all possible outnumbered buffs to pips so as long as sudden spike of people every 4:30 won't kill outnumbered buff on the node it's ok I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveller.7496 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just add the cash out already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 @"Swagger.1459" said:Edit- It's helpful if you clearly state for readers that what you are posting is an official dev communication... "From Stephane Lo Presti....xxclips...FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPower" I didn't stop people from clicking the link....Well, I can't stop people from jumping to conclusion either.@Apokriphos.7042 said:When will this happen?I heard is coming patch, next week I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @SkyShroud.2865 said:@"Swagger.1459" said:Edit- It's helpful if you clearly state for readers that what you are posting is an official dev communication... "From Stephane Lo Presti....xxclips...FrigidInquisitiveMelonGingerPower" I didn't stop people from clicking the link....Well, I can't stop people from jumping to conclusion either.@Apokriphos.7042 said:When will this happen?I heard is coming patch, next week I think.I wasn't the only one confused by it. If you are going to post something then it's your job to be clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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