Mastery Points-- bug, or am I just misreading?

[SteveMND.1754]

So, I'm a returning player after several years (when I had last played, we were still killing Karkas). I went ahead and got the HoT expansion, unlocked Masteries, etc. but I have a question -- I've gotten to the point where I have trained the entirety of Pact Mastery, but ran out of available MPs shortly thereafter. According to the Wiki, "Before you spend the points or switch to train another mastery, any experience gained will be redirected to train the first unlocked, untrained, least progressed mastery track in the list for the same category instead, if one is available."

To me, it sounds like if you fill up a mastery level's experience bar, but you don't have the MPs to unlock it, any extra XP will 'roll over' into the next one on that list (but you still have to unlock earlier levels with MPs before you can make any use of them). Am I reading that correctly?

I ask because I have the first level of Legendary Crafting and Fractal Attunement filled to max with XP, and I'm constantly getting the very annoying 'your Masteries are available for training" popup (which I can't do anything about, as I do not have the MP yet to actually train them yet. But my reading of the above Wiki text was that even if I had the first levels' XP bar filled, if I still gained XP in applicable zones, that XP should be rolling over into other later levels? Is that correct?

Because they haven't done so -- both level 2 levels in those two have been at max XP for weeks, and nothing else seems to be happening. I don't mind about any lost XP (of which there are easily a couple hundred thousand by now, I'm sure), but i don't know what's going on with any lack of 'rolling over' XP. Suggestions? Is there a bug on my account, or I just misreading what's supposed to be happening here?

Thanks in advance.

[Dallandra.8563]

If your mastery experience for the first level of legendary crafting and fractal attunement are filled but you do not have the mastery points to spend for them, further experience will go to the lowest unlocked Central Tyria mastery that is available (i.e., pact commander). You will not begin to progress the second legendary crafting and fractal masteries until you have fully trained the first mastery of each (i.e., spent the required mastery points for them).

I think your confusion here probably comes from the wiki's reference to the "same category" -- this does not refer to the specific mastery track (legendary crafting or fractal attunement, in your case), but rather to the broader region that the mastery comes from (Central Tyria masteries vs. HoT masteries vs. PoF masteries). Hope that makes sense?

[Linken.6345]

If all your mastery tracks are full and need to spend a mastery or more points then the exp go nowere.

As you state your first level of legendary crafting is full then you have to spend a mastery point for it to start filling level 2 in that mastery.

What the wiki talk about is if your pact commander was full and your other masteries was at zero exp they would get filled up 100% untill you have to spend your first mastery point on them.AFter you spent your first point they will fill up 100% untill you have to spend mastery points again.

[SteveMND.1754]

Ah, so the 'overflow XP' only applies to the first level of each then, and not further higher ones? Okay, so I was just misreading it then. Thanks you all very much for the assistance.

Another, related question while I have you guys here -- looking at some of the Dry Top chapters (I went ahead bought a few to unlock them) most all of them are listed in the rewards section to the right a number of MAstery Point symbols ("0/2"). The ones I've completed once are now listed as 1/2 so I'm guessing I already got one along the line for completing it. I also ran three other level 80s through those chapters, but it's stayed at 1/2. Does that mean i'm still missing a hidden Mastery Point somewhere in that chapter, or do I have to manually re-run that chapter with the same character to get a second (and final one) for that chapter or something?

[Steve The Cynic.3217]

@"SteveMND.1754" said:Ah, so the 'overflow XP' only applies to the first level of each then, and not further higher ones? Okay, so I was just misreading it then. Thanks you all very much for the assistance.

Another, related question while I have you guys here -- looking at some of the Dry Top chapters (I went ahead bought a few to unlock them) most all of them are listed in the rewards section to the right a number of MAstery Point symbols ("0/2"). The ones I've completed once are now listed as 1/2 so I'm guessing I already got one along the line for completing it. I also ran three other level 80s through those chapters, but it's stayed at 1/2. Does that mean i'm still missing a hidden Mastery Point somewhere in that chapter, or do I have to manually re-run that chapter with the same character to get a second (and final one) for that chapter or something?

No, the overflow XP rule applies to whatever tier each mastery track is at. If you fill one, you switch to filling another, if there is at least one that's not full at its current tier. If all of them are full, then further XP is lost.

Living World Season 2 (the chapters leave Dry Top pretty quickly) chapters each have one Mastery Point you can earn the first time you run through the chapter's story, and another that you can earn by doing the complete set of related achievements. Those achievements are earned by running a character (not necessarily the same one) through the story and doing whatever is required. As usual, all the information you could possibly want about those achievements is available on the Wiki.

[Tanner Blackfeather.6509]

@Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

[...] Those achievements are earned by running a character (not necessarily the same one) through the story and doing whatever is required.Unfortunately, LS 2 story achievements do require you to replay on a character that has done the the story previously.

Further stories (HoT onwards) have either made achievements doable on account-level replay or (increasingly) even on first play-through.

[Steve The Cynic.3217]

@Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:

@Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

[...] Those achievements are earned by running

a

character (not necessarily the same one) through the story and doing whatever is required.Unfortunately, LS 2 story achievements

do

require you to replay on

a character that has done the the story

previously.

Yes, but what I meant was that the character who gets the achievements toward the second MP for a chapter doesn't have to be the same one who completed the first run-through. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

@Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

@Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:

@Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

[...] Those achievements are earned by running

a

character (not necessarily the same one) through the story and doing whatever is required.Unfortunately, LS 2 story achievements

do

require you to replay on

a character that has done the the story

previously.

Yes, but what I meant was that the character who gets the achievements toward the second MP for a chapter doesn't have to be the same one who completed the first run-through. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Does it depend? I remember getting messed up on one of the LS2 stories by bringing a character who had done other chapters, without realizing that they needed to finish a different chapter before that toon was eligible for extra achievements.

Regardless of the answer, I am frustrated that ANet hasn't made this consistent. I don't like the concept of having to repeat a chapter for achievements in the first place. It's made even worse by not knowing which achievements have that prerequisite and which don't, without doing extensive research.

[Linken.6345]

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

@Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:

@Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

[...] Those achievements are earned by running

a

character (not necessarily the same one) through the story and doing whatever is required.Unfortunately, LS 2 story achievements

do

require you to replay on

a character that has done the the story

previously.

Yes, but what I meant was that the character who gets the achievements toward the second MP for a chapter doesn't have to be the same one who completed the first run-through. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Does it depend? I remember getting messed up on one of the LS2 stories by bringing a character who had done other chapters, without realizing that they needed to finish a different chapter before that toon was eligible for extra achievements.

Regardless of the answer, I am frustrated that ANet hasn't made this consistent. I don't like the concept of having to repeat a chapter for achievements in the first place. It's made even worse by not knowing which achievements have that prerequisite and which don't, without doing extensive research.

Steve is wrong here s2 all the chapters have to be run with a character who already done the chapter to get the bonus achievements for the mps.