clone wars.9568 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 @"Swamurabi.7890" said:Server pride lasts until that one large guild jumps to another server.It was guilds that destroyed SoR for example, one large guild left and 5 other guilds followed after than imploding the server from t1 to t5 in months. It was people loyal to those guilds that killed the server and not those loyal to the server who stayed and tried to help it. The same will happen with "worlds" when one big ally starts to fall apart because of in-fighting between guild leaders and their egos which is going to happen. Then they, in turn, will destroy the guilds in the ally who don't want drama and then the worlds themselves. You will see new worlds born every 3 months and half-built allies in a lot of them after one ally has collapsed due to infighting. Then people spending weeks trying to form new allies and getting up voicecomms again. This will repeat every 3 months. And this affects everyone in the world not just the ally or guilds but roamers also. Ally system put too much power into a groups hands which can destroy the whole game mode for everyone. A worlds ally falls apart and the whole world falls apart and everyone gives up, this guild support is going to be the death of this game mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Servers don't mean a lick when people can jump ship at will. Now if a guild comes to a server and make or breaks it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBravery.9615 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 both are cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iozeph.5617 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 @Traveller.7496 said:I've been on the same server since I started the game in 2012, so I would feel weird changing. Pretty much this. Yes, a guild is a sort of in-game family. But the server is where your guild lives. It's your anchor, your neighbours, the people on the block. You don't necessarily get along with them all the time, but when push comes to shove you'll band together to protect your patch. You know- the sort of communities these games were supposed to foster. So that the game woudl be filled with characters you'd come to know for good or ill. At least that's how it should be/should have been.Megaserver and map dumping didn't help this because what we're left with on average is a few people in a mostly empty map(save for taxi'ing during certain world boss events) which gives the game the feeling of being in a theme park after hours. There's nothing homey feeling about the game anymore. This is bad.Without a home to protect what's the point to having a guild, let alone an alliance? What are you allied for? What are you defending? What's your purpose. Getting loot? Why? To get more loot? Why? To defend your side? What side? Now that it's completely mutable what does that even mean? How does it even matter?After the changes when someone asks, 'Where's your guild from?' The inevitable answer will be, 'Nowhere.' Or if the conversation lasts long enough you might have to tell them you played together in another game before GW2 and in that game you were from 'insert name here' server. Not good if you have to identify your home or origin in game with another, older game because the game world you're in isn't much of a world at all anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimator.3589 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Guilds working together is what makes a server worthy of pride. Without the guilds, a server is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOStaticOo.9467 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Without Guilds a server is nothing...........but a bunch of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Call Me Tim.2319 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 @oOStaticOo.9467 said:Without Guilds a server is nothing...........but a bunch of people.hmmm. You picked server pride but your comment suggests you favour guild pride?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 But how is your guilds not just a bunch of people or worth anything when people can just rep any guilds? Are that not any difference from mercenaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 IMO its always been guild pride as guilds represent the server, not the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The icon on my desktop says Guild Wars 2. I don't know this Server Wars 2 game you speak of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 @"Turkeyspit.3965" said:The icon on my desktop says Guild Wars 2. I don't know this Server Wars 2 game you speak of...inb4 obligatory "the name refers to something from the lore" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyPin.9860 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Guild Pride is better, because the game is called "Guild Wars" ;) [i bet I am the first one to make this kind of statement]EDIT:No seriously. Guild Pride makes kind of sense, because you most likely choose a guild with players or an "atmosphere" you prefer. In this sense you can kind of control what group you belong to. But a server is too big a collection of different people. It isn't necessarily themed around a common goal unlike guilds usually are.EDIT 2:However when the game was still young and world linking wasn't a thing I was kinda proud belonging to FoW, because the non-bandwagoners where sticking with the server. So we had a small collection of loyal players that almost felt like a guild, even though we were a collection of some small guilds doing WvW. But you knew each other, you even knew most of the players of the opposing small servers. I don't know. It was like a little family battling it out week after week or trying to survive against an onslaught of overwhelming numbers... thinking about that, I kinda miss the old days... can I change my answer back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOStaticOo.9467 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 @"Balthazzarr.1349" said:@oOStaticOo.9467 said:Without Guilds a server is nothing...........but a bunch of people.hmmm. You picked server pride but your comment suggests you favour guild pride??I was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Call Me Tim.2319 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 @oOStaticOo.9467 said:@"Balthazzarr.1349" said:@oOStaticOo.9467 said:Without Guilds a server is nothing...........but a bunch of people.hmmm. You picked server pride but your comment suggests you favour guild pride??I was being sarcastic.doh! right over my head.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrolan.9608 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Guild because servers are an inflexible population mechanism and server pride has in part played a role in delaying the changes that have to occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPanda.1872 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Can I pick "Proud guild members that are proud of being in the same server community?" I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive.I don't think I will ever see my best moments of WvW when members of multiple guilds work together in the name and pride of their server. When guilds would proudly say "We are a __server_name__ guild" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 It's like a big company vs a family business and I prefer the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethl.2875 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 server pride breeds toxicity towards guilds/players on other servers, and even the players on their own servers who aren't working towards the mandated "server cause". guild pride leads you to respect guilds around you, friendly or not, who clearly put effort into their membership and play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen.6021 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Cant wait for new system and servers deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazreal Blackknight.1564 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Server pride, I have 5 guilds but only 1 server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyyphoon.5301 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Given the large amounts of bandwagon behavior since the release of this game, server pride has diluted to nil post-HoT/server-linkage era. If you just take a survey of which players are on which server, you will find certain band of groups will always be together regardless of which server is the FOTM. Many guilds also experience large turnovers, but atleast the corruption and back-handed tactics of server leaders is not as prominent. Also, given the tentative plan of converting GW2 WvW into an alliance-structured environment will deem servers obsolete. I have been fortunate to have played with quality guilds and players, so these are just my personal observations.In any case, any kind of pride in general is dangerous to have. Hubris goes a long way to deteriorate your mind and soul. Keep it in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Servers because not everybody play in a guild. I am more loyal to the larger faction than individual guilds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 @Caliburn.1845 said:You cannot control who is on your server. So why take pride in something you have no control over?You can control who is in your guild, so taking pride in that seems much more logical.I could say the same about Factions in any RvR game. But Faction pride is greater than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 @Israel.7056 said:@"Turkeyspit.3965" said:The icon on my desktop says Guild Wars 2. I don't know this Server Wars 2 game you speak of...inb4 obligatory "the name refers to something from the lore"Well it does. Has nothing to do with player Guilds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 im proud even of the ones that give the server a bad rep, because at the end of the day a lot of people remember a server because of its personalities. the guilds all add into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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