New Marked! debuff

Zero.3871 · November 20, 2018

@Bezerker.2379 said:
@Zero.3871 said:
@Bezerker.2379 said:
@"XECOR.2814" said:So much salt here while people are having no problem in wvw and overall gameplay quality has increased as you can escape perma stealth deadeye now. No matter how much thief players cry, this was needed and anet did the right thing introducing this. Stealth needed counter and it got the right one. Now maybe its time thief players will start thinking instead of stacking stealth against players who are using 120% of their brain to avoid burst from stealth and escape a deadeye.

Stealth needed a counter, hands down, but I can't even go near sentries if there are groups there.

Last night I was hunting someone in desert BL. (Collecting bounties). He just started standing near a sentry. If I got too close, I wound up getting marked and destealthed before I even got close enough to fire a shot. (Mark range > rifle range?)

You are right. We needed a counter. And though I wish it was more of an active method than mark (It's really dumb not being able to restealth up for 28s after killing a sentry because of the debuff even though I two shot the sentry... which is actually harder to do now because of reveal spam), I am ok with this being "the way". It does provide an interesting counter and make sentries actually decent and worth having. I DO take issue with the 2s duration though. If it's meant to stop perma stealth, 6 or 8 seconds makes sense. I have an entire trait line dedicated to "every x seconds, do something in stealth". I have no ability that gives me less than 3s stealth. It's just too short.

first world Problems. other classes also cant go near sentries

when there are Groups

because they also would die because These classes never had invis. in that case you have to find another target if the Group is too great for you. what do you think? that killing 1 Person inside of a Group should be easy? what you have to handle now is the game experience for all others since 6 years. and there are still non thiefes in game, so i think its possible to do that.

and the new marked on for example with 3 seconds would due to that you can again perma Stealthing. using 1 Stealth ability and exactly when it runs out you press the next. if you time it properly you are Maybe visible for 0,1 sec. your opponents would still be not able to cast skills that Need a target and would still not be able to fight thiefes that are not stacking but chaining their invis for perma invis.

the Animation of target painter trap is the same like siege disabler. and since People are able to use bubbles against that you should also be able to see the Animation if someone throughs it to you and dodge it by using your infinity numbers of teleports. this target painter has 40 sec cd. so if you teleport fast enough to not get the hit from it you can easily fight.

? First world problems. Other classes can indeed go near sentries when there are groups around. On my warrior, I ignore the mark, go into the group of 2 or 3, and just go ham. Sustain + full counters, balanced endure pains, and kiting gives me everything I need. I don't lose any ability by being marked, other than being detected.

On my thief, I don't have that sustain. I mean, I do, it's an entire trait line called "Shadow Arts". Oh. Wait. I can't use that. :)

Again, it's workable, but it's pretty extreme in comparison to some other classes counters. It needs some tuning. 6 or 8 seconds does exactly what it planned to do (Stop permastealthing inside keeps) and that's that.

6-8 seconds are way too much, current System is better. you still have enough time to Stealth and start your Stealth attack WHEN you are marked. it is still easy for thiefes to not get marked.

i roam since years as necro and i also cant get where i want. if i am able to do that i am very sure everyone of you is also.

Dawdler.8521 · November 20, 2018

@Rayth.2816 said:
@Dawdler.8521 said:Welcome to the world of every other class.

You must be very, very bad with all classes to reach this conclusion.Of course I am bad at most of them, I only pick the one I'm good with that can assault a tower without stealthing. You?

Bezerker.2379 · November 20, 2018

@Zero.3871 said:
@Bezerker.2379 said:
@Zero.3871 said:
@Bezerker.2379 said:
@"XECOR.2814" said:So much salt here while people are having no problem in wvw and overall gameplay quality has increased as you can escape perma stealth deadeye now. No matter how much thief players cry, this was needed and anet did the right thing introducing this. Stealth needed counter and it got the right one. Now maybe its time thief players will start thinking instead of stacking stealth against players who are using 120% of their brain to avoid burst from stealth and escape a deadeye.