Pistols

[Dace.8173]

I really wish the pistols for Engineer were stronger weapons :'(

[Peutrifectus.4830]

Me too :cry:

/10characters

[Jaruselka.5943]

Agreed. Slow firing rate, limited range, couple that with all the projectile hate, barriers and rediculous condie cleanse it's like bringing a squirt gun to the Normandy landings.. Worst weapons in the game, period.

[Dawdler.8521]

Funny, I wish other classes than engineers and thieves had mainhand pistols instead.

[Dace.8173]

@Dawdler.8521 said:Funny, I wish other classes than engineers and thieves had mainhand pistols instead.

These aren't mutually exclusive desires. In that regard most of the ranged weapons could due to be passed around to other professions.

[Vagrant.7206]

@Jaruselka.5943 said:Agreed. Slow firing rate, limited range, couple that with all the projectile hate, barriers and rediculous condie cleanse it's like bringing a squirt gun to the Normandy landings.. Worst weapons in the game, period.

Even from the get-go they were pretty bad.

[EUmad.7645]

I really love pistols style and skills ... Problem is that condi damage alone is weak now so you can do nothing .

[yLoon.5289]

Engineer's pistol is not meant for Zerkers direct damage, but perform better in condi dps.Pistol AA are just like any other class, just that it sometimes miss aim, same goes with Pistol 2.However, offhand Pistol 4 is one of the highest one click condi Burn skill in the game. It has its own use, but just not glob fight in WvW I suppose.

[Jaruselka.5943]

@yLoon.5289 said:Engineer's pistol is not meant for Zerkers direct damage, but perform better in condi dps.Pistol AA are just like any other class, just that it sometimes miss aim, same goes with Pistol 2.However, offhand Pistol 4 is one of the highest one click condi Burn skill in the game. It has its own use, but just not glob fight in WvW I suppose.

Pistols might be OK when you are fighting against glorified batch files in PvE but against intelligent opponents with access to a dozen cleanse skills that Pistol 4 skill becomes about as useful as a trailer hitch on a 747

[yLoon.5289]

Condition cleansing mobs are still doable, but wait till you encounter mobs which are immune to Burn xDYeah that applies to my Condi FB, had to change spec whenever encountering Air Djinn (immune to all conditions!)

[Dace.8173]

@yLoon.5289 said:Engineer's pistol is not meant for Zerkers direct damage, but perform better in condi dps.Pistol AA are just like any other class, just that it sometimes miss aim, same goes with Pistol 2.However, offhand Pistol 4 is one of the highest one click condi Burn skill in the game. It has its own use, but just not glob fight in WvW I suppose.

I'm not really talking about them for Zerker direct damage. However, in their role as a mid-range condi weapon they could stand to be A LOT better.

[Wark.8324]

@"Dace.8173" said:However, in their role as a mid-range condi weapon they could stand to be A LOT better.Actually, I've been testing out a scrapper WvW roamer lately with the rune and sigil updates. Let me tell you: P/P really wrecks face right now, if used right.I'm finding the key to it is proper use of utilities and sigil selection in combination. For example:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqanUUBlch9dB2XBEqiF2iC8D3gAgO4H+kfsNGjaD-j1RFQBJ7EA0I1f8oSQcs/AAeAAwRPwCV+BA-w

I think it's mostly effective because people don't expect it and never see it coming.This plays like a thief for mobility and stealth, but more importantly: Sigil of Torment is critical for cover conditions.I can't stress this enough. Without Sigil of Torment, one good cleanse yields your burns/bleeds/confusion/poison all moot.

If they made pistol 1 an explosion however ... that would be awesome.

[Dace.8173]

@Wark.8324 said:

@"Dace.8173" said:However, in their role as a mid-range condi weapon they could stand to be A LOT better.Actually, I've been testing out a scrapper WvW roamer lately with the rune and sigil updates. Let me tell you: P/P really wrecks face right now, if used right.I'm finding the key to it is proper use of utilities and sigil selection in combination. For example:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqanUUBlch9dB2XBEqiF2iC8D3gAgO4H+kfsNGjaD-j1RFQBJ7EA0I1f8oSQcs/AAeAAwRPwCV+BA-w

I think it's mostly effective because

people don't expect it and never see it coming.

This plays like a thief for mobility and stealth, but more importantly:

Sigil of Torment

is critical for cover conditions.I can't stress this enough. Without Sigil of Torment, one good cleanse yields your burns/bleeds/confusion/poison all moot.

If they made pistol 1 an explosion however ... that would be awesome.

I'll have to give this a test, thanks!!!