Elusive Mind Needs Some Love

[Sampson.2403]

Tagging 6 seconds of exhaustion on a grandmaster trait is considered a felony where i come from.

Knock it down to 4 seconds and we can all walk away from this like it never even happened.

[jportell.2197]

That and undo the vigor nerfs. Esp in dueling. Every other class aside from necro has way more vigor uptime.

[LazySummer.2568]

no it doesnt. condi mirage is still meta and braindead to play with or without elusive mind.

[coro.3176]

Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced.

[SteepledHat.1345]

@coro.3176 said:Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced.

So I expect to see you posting about all the midtier traits that reward you with various forms of semi-immunity for poor play. Any time now...

[shadowpass.4236]

Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd

Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills

[coro.3176]

@SteepledHat.1345 said:

@"coro.3176" said:Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced.

So I expect to see you posting about all the midtier traits that reward you with various forms of semi-immunity for poor play. Any time now...

I do .. pretty often

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/754958#Comment_754958https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/750044#Comment_750044

[SteepledHat.1345]

@coro.3176 said:

@SteepledHat.1345 said:

@coro.3176 said:Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced.

So I expect to see you posting about all the midtier traits that reward you with various forms of semi-immunity for poor play. Any time now...

I do .. pretty often

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/754958#Comment_754958

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/750044#Comment_750044

Touche, have a thumbs up.

[Stand The Wall.6987]

since this is a democracy vote for me for next balance team pres and I will fix all woes.all woes everywhere.

[mortrialus.3062]

@shadowpass.4236 said:Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd

Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills

Deal.

[BlaqueFyre.5678]

@Stand The Wall.6987 said:since this is a democracy vote for me for next balance team pres and I will fix all woes.all woes everywhere.

All woes? Everywhere? So some QoL fixes for Rev and bug fixes? You get my vote!

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

@Sampson.2403 said:Tagging 6 seconds of exhaustion on a grandmaster trait is considered a felony where i come from.

Knock it down to 4 seconds and we can all walk away from this like it never even happened.

You sound like a shady negotiating mobster and it's 10/10

[Stand The Wall.6987]

@BlaqueFyre.5678 said:

@Stand The Wall.6987 said:since this is a democracy vote for me for next balance team pres and I will fix all woes.all woes everywhere.

All woes? Everywhere? So some QoL fixes for Rev and bug fixes? You get my vote!

haha cheers mate.

[apharma.3741]

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@shadowpass.4236 said:Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd

Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills

Deal.

Also deal.

[Zex Anthon.8673]

@shadowpass.4236 said:Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd

Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills

Also reduce the evade time to 3/4 s like a normal dodge. And increase the abush window.

[Vieux P.1238]

Nope to OP.I say there been so many crying complainers about it, i say leave it as is. So they can't rant that's the reason mirage is broken & not there own flaky skill's.As predicted same complainers found something else now to complain about mirage now that EM is no longer an issue. Now it's to many clones or de-targeting & Chrono is to op.

[mortrialus.3062]

@Zex Anthon.8673 said:

@shadowpass.4236 said:Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd

Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills

Also reduce the evade time to 3/4 s like a normal dodge. And increase the abush window.

Abolutely not.

[Oslaf Beinir.5842]

Why use EM when IH is there?

[mortrialus.3062]

@Oslaf Beinir.5842 said:Why use EM when IH is there?

Just the condition cleanse on dodge really.

[Vieux P.1238]

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Oslaf Beinir.5842 said:Why use EM when IH is there?

Just the condition cleanse on dodge really.

No

[XECOR.2814]

Half the power and condi damage.

[Abelisk.4527]

@Vieux P.1238 said:

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@Oslaf Beinir.5842 said:Why use EM when IH is there?

Just the condition cleanse on dodge really.

No

I use it for condi cleanse too.

[incisorr.9502]

at this point elusive mind is just an anti-skill and it feels like shit to use it because the only way you do damage as mesmer is with mirage cloak, which costs staminawhich means you have less defensive dodges because mirage cloak is used offensively

and due to the vigor nerfs (and yes, it's true that every class in the game has better vigor uptime with a few exceptions) and also needing mirage cloak to attack OFFENSIVELY that means you ACTUALLY HAVE LESS DODGES AS A MESMER which isn't a rocket science its common sense but we all know that 99% of the anti-mesmer whine is made by people that don't play or understand mesmer

elusive mind needs to go back to 3s exhaustion and even then it would still not be that good but at least a consideration

[Lincolnbeard.1735]

It just needs eiher Shadowpass suggestion or cleanse one condi and one MIC if you feel 2 condis is too much.Even 3 sec exhaustion is trash if you don't have endurance gain skills.

[Sampson.2403]

Do I need to call Joe Pesci?