Imagine a warrior

[TheDevice.2751]

Then take away all their mobility, all their crazy CC, all their Invulnerability, all their blocks, all their constant healing, all their armor

Then add a bit more aoe and a bit more hp and you have a Reaper.

----- I Like the part when you're a reaper and after a couple dodges the enemy/enemies just unload all burst on you and you're like " I forgot Im not a warrior." and you die.

/realtalk

[Crab Fear.1624]

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@"TheDevice.2751" said:

And yet a Reaper can instagib an entire team at the right moment unlike warrior.

But there's a little something to it though, I play mostly Thief, Ele, etc. so it's been border line depressing for me to play Warrior and be like "I am standing in all of this guys attacks and AoEs, why am I taking no dmg? .... Why the hell is the guy ded I pressed only two damn buttons!"

[sephiroth.4217]

Reaper has a 2nd health pool, spectral walk and flesh wurm?

[Sigmoid.7082]

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

[sephiroth.4217]

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Think about how one would use that second health pool to soak up damage then think about your comment, or was that the joke?Its hard to decipher sometimes

[Sigmoid.7082]

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Think about how one would use that second health pool to soak up damage then think about your comment, or was that the joke?Its hard to decipher sometimes

Its no joke. Especially since damage is at an all time high.Shroud as a defensive mechanic isn't as great as some people make it out to be and doesn't scale well with increased combatants like most other types of defence.

[sephiroth.4217]

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Think about how one would use that second health pool to soak up damage then think about your comment, or was that the joke?Its hard to decipher sometimes

Its no joke. Especially since damage is at an all time high.Shroud as a defensive mechanic isn't as great as some people make it out to be and doesn't scale well with increased combatants like most other types of defence.

Yea isn't that the joke? That you dont go shroud for defensive?

I think you made your joke on accident now lol ?

[Sigmoid.7082]

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Think about how one would use that second health pool to soak up damage then think about your comment, or was that the joke?Its hard to decipher sometimes

Its no joke. Especially since damage is at an all time high.Shroud as a defensive mechanic isn't as great as some people make it out to be and doesn't scale well with increased combatants like most other types of defence.

Yea isn't that the joke? That you dont go shroud for defensive?

I think you made your joke on accident now lol ?

I....am confused haha.

[sephiroth.4217]

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Think about how one would use that second health pool to soak up damage then think about your comment, or was that the joke?Its hard to decipher sometimes

Its no joke. Especially since damage is at an all time high.Shroud as a defensive mechanic isn't as great as some people make it out to be and doesn't scale well with increased combatants like most other types of defence.

Yea isn't that the joke? That you dont go shroud for defensive?

I think you made your joke on accident now lol ?

I....am confused haha.

Nevermind lmao

[Silinsar.6298]

Shroud won't save you from a coordinated spike and / or cc chain (warrior's armor won't either) but there're a lot of moments where a bit of extra HP can keep you alive. Necro also has boon rip / corrupt that exceeds Spellbreaker's and Reaper's ranged pressure can be dangerous, while a meta war at range does next to nothing at range. Warriors are more self sufficient and harder to punish. Reaper has more offensive potential.

[Virelion.4128]

Reaper is free kill in every fight. The only viable way to play it is to go full glass and one shot noobs which is creating trading opportunity for team, this playstyle was also nerfed hard lately.

The difference between warrior is that warrior can be hard to kill even in berserker and reaper defence is a joke even in paladins

[Stand The Wall.6987]

the trick to surviving as a necro is to maintain weakness on all the dps classes lol.

[Ziggityzog.7389]

If you play reaper right then it's more like the warrior from hell.

I play tank first with power second. I have no issue vs power builds with a paladin amulet. I can melee with my gs or reaper mode then range with my axe.

When your lf pool is full go reaper and use blood trait to get health back quick. Reaper mode can be used as a escape or as a means to tank more.

Reaper is just funnn :D

[mortrialus.3062]

@"TheDevice.2751" said:Then take away all their mobility, all their crazy CC, all their Invulnerability, all their blocks, all their constant healing, all their armor

Then add a bit more aoe and a bit more hp and you have a Reaper.

----- I Like the part when you're a reaper and after a couple dodges the enemy/enemies just unload all burst on you and you're like " I forgot Im not a warrior." and you die.

/realtalk

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@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:To put things in perspective, Reaper had one of the highest win-rates and play-rates in ranked last season

[Sigmoid.7082]

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@"TheDevice.2751" said:Then take away all their mobility, all their crazy CC, all their Invulnerability, all their blocks, all their constant healing, all their armor

Then add a bit more aoe and a bit more hp and you have a Reaper.

----- I Like the part when you're a reaper and after a couple dodges the enemy/enemies just unload all burst on you and you're like " I forgot Im not a warrior." and you die.

/realtalk

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@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:To put things in perspective, Reaper had one of the highest win-rates and play-rates in ranked last season

Ben's quote is all good and well but it lacks the detail required to be anything but anecdotal.

[Solo.6873]

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Sigmoid.7082 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health poolIt doesn't really mean a whole lot.

Think about how one would use that second health pool to soak up damage then think about your comment, or was that the joke?Its hard to decipher sometimes

Its no joke. Especially since damage is at an all time high.Shroud as a defensive mechanic isn't as great as some people make it out to be and doesn't scale well with increased combatants like most other types of defence.

Yea isn't that the joke? That you dont go shroud for defensive?

I think you made your joke on accident now lol ?

I....am confused haha.

Nevermind lmao

Hahaha ?

[TheDevice.2751]

@"sephiroth.4217" said:Reaper has a 2nd health pool, spectral walk and flesh wurm?

Health doesn't mean much in this game idk if you're aware of that. You can run 33k with a "second health pool" and still die super fast to focus fire just because of stuns, crits, confusion and torment. Your consume condi's takes about a half hour to cast so enjoy getting cc'd out of that. if you're blinded or enemy has blocks or whatever, you're not transferring any conditions.Spectral walk doesn't mitigate damage and will just throw you out of a fight but not help win any. Unlike thieves, wars, mesmers, who have means of getting right back into a fight to capitalize on cd's, reapers cant.Wurm same thing. this is why not many reapers play wurm or even sw. WoD is usually played over those for survivability but WoD or things like protection wont actually save you from burst.

You're never going to convince me that shroud is better than multiple invulnerabilities, evades, blocks and heals... and mobility.I've played long enough to know which is better.This is why Guards are like complementary to reapers because.... reapers are on their asses so much lol.

[mortrialus.3062]

@TheDevice.2751 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health pool, spectral walk and flesh wurm?

Health doesn't mean much in this game idk if you're aware of that.Tell that to any Ele trying to run a high damage variant.

[XECOR.2814]

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@TheDevice.2751 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health pool, spectral walk and flesh wurm?

Health doesn't mean much in this game idk if you're aware of that.Tell that to any Ele trying to run a high damage variant.

They have tools to survive like evasion and mobility to work around that low health pool. And it is commonly known that ele is not in very good spot right now so i dont know why you would make that comment.

[mortrialus.3062]

@XECOR.2814 said:

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@TheDevice.2751 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Reaper has a 2nd health pool, spectral walk and flesh wurm?

Health doesn't mean much in this game idk if you're aware of that.Tell that to any Ele trying to run a high damage variant.

They have tools to survive like evasion and mobility to work around that low health pool. And it is commonly known that ele is not in very good spot right now so i dont know why you would make that comment.

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@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:To put things in perspective, Reaper had one of the highest win-rates and play-rates in ranked last season

[TheDevice.2751]

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@TheDevice.2751 said:

@mortrialus.3062 said:

@"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said:To put things in perspective, Reaper had one of the highest win-rates and play-rates in ranked last season

"One of the highest" means nothing. Thats fluff. Completely non-specific. No actual number.Reapers could have been like the better half of winrates of all professions or second best (though i doubt that since he would have just said "second best") or whatever. It doesn't mean much. thats also when they just got that buff and nobody knew how to work around the quickness. Now they do and im almost going to guarantee that they have lost that standin..... wherever it was lol. because who knows. No numbers, no charts, just "one of the highest"

Thats like a Trump tactic. "We have some of the best, the greatest, the highest numbers. Totally one of the highest. It's amazing"

Unlike you and unlike Trump Ben has the actual numbers in front of him. And if he was lying about it, it would jeopardize his job.

Good. You're right, I don't have actual numbers in front of me. Sooooo lets get those numbers.

Plus, I never said he was lying, I said it was non-specific. What is their gauge for "one of the best"? We don't know. We don't know how he's defining that.It's hard to lie when you're not being specific.

[DragonFury.6243]

i love to see my reaper have 4 stun-break , a rampage , a healing signet that heal for no reason and heal when you ever spend LFohh wait we are no warrior we are Knights we have Shroud Knight so we dont need to descend to their level

[SteepledHat.1345]

@Alatar.7364 said:

@"TheDevice.2751" said:

And yet a Reaper can instagib an entire team at the right moment unlike warrior.

But there's a little something to it though, I play mostly Thief, Ele, etc. so it's been border line depressing for me to play Warrior and be like

"I am standing in all of this guys attacks and AoEs, why am I taking no dmg? .... Why the hell is the guy ded I pressed only two kitten buttons!"

instagib? You mean you all stood in the death spin for at least 3 seconds?

[Alatar.7364]

@SteepledHat.1345 said:instagib? You mean you all stood in the death spin for at least 3 seconds?

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