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@Sobx.1758 said:

@aspirine.6852 said:When doing the casino coin event the skyscale is perfect for it. Also for HoT maps the skyscale shines compared to anything else.

Nothing beats griffon in HoT maps.

Remember that one hero point in Verdant Brink, where you go down, down, down, looking for this one little hole in the wall/tree to scoot through, and if your griffon misses it, you have to find a place to land before you hit the bottom of the chasm, then WP back to the top to start over? Just sayin'.

In some other thread I mentioned that Dragon's Stand HP where you have to jump and land on that needle-like tower top in the middle of a pit.

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@"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said:

@aspirine.6852 said:When doing the casino coin event the skyscale is perfect for it. Also for HoT maps the skyscale shines compared to anything else.

Nothing beats griffon in HoT maps.

Remember that one hero point in Verdant Brink, where you go down, down, down, looking for this one little hole in the wall/tree to scoot through, and if your griffon misses it, you have to find a place to land before you hit the bottom of the chasm, then WP back to the top to start over? Just sayin'.

In some other thread I mentioned that Dragon's Stand HP where you have to jump and land on that needle-like tower top in the middle of a pit.

And that one in verdant in the tower. Easy JP skip with the skyscale :)

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@"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said:

@aspirine.6852 said:When doing the casino coin event the skyscale is perfect for it. Also for HoT maps the skyscale shines compared to anything else.

Nothing beats griffon in HoT maps.

Remember that one hero point in Verdant Brink, where you go down, down, down, looking for this one little hole in the wall/tree to scoot through, and if your griffon misses it, you have to find a place to land before you hit the bottom of the chasm, then WP back to the top to start over? Just sayin'.

In some other thread I mentioned that Dragon's Stand HP where you have to jump and land on that needle-like tower top in the middle of a pit.

The only time I had to even look for that VB HP was on my first playthrough when HoT came out. When I went back there after PoF mounts I had no issues knowing where that point is, so I can't really agree.That DS HP might be a better one :p

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@"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said:

@aspirine.6852 said:When doing the casino coin event the skyscale is perfect for it. Also for HoT maps the skyscale shines compared to anything else.

Nothing beats griffon in HoT maps.

Remember that one hero point in Verdant Brink, where you go down, down, down, looking for this one little hole in the wall/tree to scoot through, and if your griffon misses it, you have to find a place to land before you hit the bottom of the chasm, then WP back to the top to start over? Just sayin'.

In some other thread I mentioned that Dragon's Stand HP where you have to jump and land on that needle-like tower top in the middle of a pit.

And that one in verdant in the tower. Easy JP skip with the skyscale :)

emm... What tower? What JP for HP?

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all good this stuff, but if u ask me mounts should be locked to HoT maps and PoF mounts to PoF maps only.why? cus rest of maps arent even designed to deal with these mounts..

personally i couldnt careless if they do it or dont as i dont spend much time in pve but doing map completion nowadays is just piss easy (always was but took time) now it takes like what? 2/3 days? if u play ~4/5 hours a day so 15 hours total. maybe still slow as fuck but i dont own a griffon neither skyscale nor i focus 4 or 5hours straight on game i just know i did it in 2 or 3 work days so i know i got more or less 4 or 5 hours to play..

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The skyscale is the more versatile mount in my opinion.

@Echostorm.9143 said:

@Sobx.1758 said:Nothing beats griffon in HoT maps.

This is hilarious.

Nothing beats Skyscale in ALL maps.

Totally, I prefer my flying at a downward angle and frequent stops. Soaring blissfully free is too good for us.

You're comparing it with an imaginary mount, ofcoutse you're going to be disapointed

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Love the skyscale. More then i thought i would. It quickly became my nr 1 mount now it's all mastered up. I like to casually explore, don't usually need to be places asap. And skyscale is perfect for it. Been revisiting maps to knock out some achievements I hadn't done yet/could not reach/were to troublesome and the skyscale made it way easier. Also it gives a new perspective on a lot of maps, making me revisit maps and fly around having fun, just playing tourist. All maps are totally revitalized (for a while) by scyscale for me. So yeah I'd definitely;y say Skyscale is a pleasure to fly. And safe the bit over the top 250 currency for each map (had about 1/3th), I didn't mind the collections and such. Took me a little over 3 weeks total.

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It was a trial, but unlocking the Skyscale was very much worth it. Once all masteries were unlocked, it's rare that I ever switch to another mount unless I have a very specific reason (super speed/wall breaks on the beetle, Jackal sand portals, or sweeping up multiple targets with Raptor for example.) All the mounts, where compared apples to apples with specific tasks will be better than the Skyscale, but if you don't mind that little bit of niche loss, this dragon shines in practically all aspects of mount travel. Yes, it's a PITA to get, but it's doable by anyone with a time investment. Keep picking at it, and you'll eventually get there. You're not 'missing' anything from it, if you don't have it, and there are so many now, that the 'shiny' is losing it's luster. The worst part of the grind was the currency for the saddle, but again, if you just give yourself x amount of time per session to minimize burnout, the currencies will add up in no time, and soon you'll be dragocoptering, too. :D

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@Welcometotheden.8547 said:It was a trial, but unlocking the Skyscale was very much worth it. Once all masteries were unlocked, it's rare that I ever switch to another mount unless I have a very specific reason (super speed/wall breaks on the beetle, Jackal sand portals, or sweeping up multiple targets with Raptor for example.) All the mounts, where compared apples to apples with specific tasks will be better than the Skyscale, but if you don't mind that little bit of niche loss, this dragon shines in practically all aspects of mount travel. Yes, it's a PITA to get, but it's doable by anyone with a time investment. Keep picking at it, and you'll eventually get there. You're not 'missing' anything from it, if you don't have it, and there are so many now, that the 'shiny' is losing it's luster. The worst part of the grind was the currency for the saddle, but again, if you just give yourself x amount of time per session to minimize burnout, the currencies will add up in no time, and soon you'll be dragocoptering, too. :D

It's really not about how PITA the unlocking process is. It's about getting something for all the kittens you have to put up with. The griffon was worth all the kittens, while I do not see that same value with the Skyscale. Too much work for a lackluster mount. Mounts are suppose to ease traveling, not make it more frustrating.

Sure you can hover and reach high places with the Skyscale, but there is no need for hovering or reaching those high places. If my bunny cannot reach a height, it's probably a waste of time to get up there anyway.

I rather have a Spider mount that can climb walls and cliffs, any day for this kind of PITA unlocking process.

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@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:It's really not about how PITA the unlocking process is. It's about getting something for all the kittens you have to put up with. The griffon was worth all the kittens, while I do not see that same value with the Skyscale. Too much work for a lackluster mount. Mounts are suppose to ease traveling, not make it more frustrating.

Sure you can hover and reach high places with the Skyscale, but there is no need for hovering or reaching those high places. If my bunny cannot reach a height, it's probably a waste of time to get up there anyway.

I rather have a Spider mount that can climb walls and cliffs, any day for this kind of PITA unlocking process.

I'm not finding it lackluster at all. I'm not solely using it because of the effort taken to get it, more than I'm using it because it facilitates the actions of most of the other mounts to my needs. And there is still room for those other mounts, based on the needs, as I mentioned. If you have the gryphon, and love the gryphon, is the Skyscale better? Arguably. Yet, I also loved my Gryphon, and loved the dive bomb ability of it. I still prefer the Skyscale, and I don't even use the gryphon any more (or at least, until that need comes up.)

This isn't to you directly, but more in general for anyone -Do you need it? No. Do you want it? If not, don't worry about it. You're not going to miss too much without it (for now, I guess?) I don't picture anyone lesser for not having one. I mean, is it really elite anymore? Anyone can get it, but how much time/effort it's going to take depends on them individually. I 100% agree on the unlock PITA. It was very much a PITA. And I feel rather unnecessary . However, it is what it is, and community feedback will change it for the better going forward. By all means, anyone who wants it, but rather wait to see how Anet changes the criteria...wait. It's ok to wait. But don't let it stop you from slowly picking away at it because perhaps you're fighting the bias of the criteria needed for it, rather than the end result.

Was it worth it for me to spend several days in a row, hard grinding to get everything needed? Not really. I could have easily waited, and took my time. Am I happy I have it now? Yes. Yes, I am. Would I do it again? Well, of course. But I may or may not put as much effort into it as I did. That's all I'm advocating now. I personally think it's a great mount, and worth an effort to obtain it. Just like the gryphon.

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@https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/78676/skyscale-is-a-pleasure-to-fly#latest"Sir Vincent III.1286" said:

@Welcometotheden.8547 said:It was a trial, but unlocking the Skyscale was very much worth it. Once all masteries were unlocked, it's rare that I ever switch to another mount unless I have a very specific reason (super speed/wall breaks on the beetle, Jackal sand portals, or sweeping up multiple targets with Raptor for example.) All the mounts, where compared apples to apples with specific tasks will be better than the Skyscale, but if you don't mind that little bit of niche loss, this dragon shines in practically all aspects of mount travel. Yes, it's a PITA to get, but it's doable by anyone with a time investment. Keep picking at it, and you'll eventually get there. You're not 'missing' anything from it, if you don't have it, and there are so many now, that the 'shiny' is losing it's luster. The worst part of the grind was the currency for the saddle, but again, if you just give yourself x amount of time per session to minimize burnout, the currencies will add up in no time, and soon you'll be dragocoptering, too. :D

It's really not about how PITA the unlocking process is. It's about getting something for all the kittens you have to put up with. The griffon was worth all the kittens, while I do not see that same value with the Skyscale. Too much work for a lackluster mount. Mounts are suppose to ease traveling, not make it more frustrating.

Sure you can hover and reach high places with the Skyscale, but there is no need for hovering or reaching those high places. If my bunny cannot reach a height, it's probably a waste of time to get up there anyway.

I rather have a Spider mount that can climb walls and cliffs, any day for this kind of PITA unlocking process.

Spider mount would be really cool. Almost as cool as a Charr Submarine.

But the Skybrick is just a funless afk mount for people who have nothing better to do. A total waste of time and effort.

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@Welcometotheden.8547 said:

@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:It's really not about how PITA the unlocking process is. It's about getting something for all the kittens you have to put up with. The griffon was worth all the kittens, while I do not see that same value with the Skyscale. Too much work for a lackluster mount. Mounts are suppose to ease traveling, not make it more frustrating.

Sure you can hover and reach high places with the Skyscale, but there is no need for hovering or reaching those high places. If my bunny cannot reach a height, it's probably a waste of time to get up there anyway.

I rather have a Spider mount that can climb walls and cliffs, any day for this kind of PITA unlocking process.

I'm not finding it lackluster at all. I'm not solely using it because of the effort taken to get it, more than I'm using it because it facilitates the actions of most of the other mounts to my needs. And there is still room for those other mounts, based on the needs, as I mentioned. If you have the gryphon, and love the gryphon, is the Skyscale better? Arguably. Yet, I also loved my Gryphon, and loved the dive bomb ability of it. I still prefer the Skyscale, and I don't even use the gryphon any more (or at least, until that need comes up.)

This isn't to you directly, but more in general for anyone -Do you need it? No. Do you want it? If not, don't worry about it. You're not going to miss too much without it (for now, I guess?) I don't picture anyone lesser for not having one. I mean, is it really elite anymore? Anyone can get it, but how much time/effort it's going to take depends on them individually. I 100% agree on the unlock PITA. It was very much a PITA. And I feel rather unnecessary . However, it is what it is, and community feedback will change it for the better going forward. By all means, anyone who wants it, but rather wait to see how Anet changes the criteria...wait. It's ok to wait. But don't let it stop you from slowly picking away at it because perhaps you're fighting the bias of the criteria needed for it, rather than the end result.

Was it worth it for me to spend several days in a row, hard grinding to get everything needed? Not really. I could have easily waited, and took my time. Am I happy I have it now? Yes. Yes, I am. Would I do it again? Well, of course. But I may or may not put as much effort into it as I did. That's all I'm advocating now. I personally think it's a great mount, and worth an effort to obtain it. Just like the gryphon.

As I said, I don't mind jumping hoops, rolling in mud, eating kitten, if the mount is worth all that crap.

For instance, unlocking the griffon is also a PITA, but is it worth it? HECK YEAH!!!

Is Skyscale worth it? What Skyscale?

EDIT: The Skyscale should be able to climb cliffs and walls, even if it's just a few feet.

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@"Sir Vincent III.1286" said:

As I said, I don't mind jumping hoops, rolling in mud, eating kitten, if the mount is worth all that kitten.

For instance, unlocking the griffon is also a PITA, but is it worth it? HECK YEAH!!!

Is Skyscale worth it? What Skyscale?

EDIT: The Skyscale should be able to climb cliffs and walls, even if it's just a few feet.

It...kinda does?

Check here:

4:25min mark.

Though, I see what you're saying. I would really like to see energy refresh when it's wall mounted, so then that could be a little more like a wall climb, rather than a partial rest.

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I stopped using the other mounts just for the precision you get with the skyscale. The Griffin is just too fast when you are going somewhere. You'll be able to enjoy thg the scenery as you travel and stop and assess the situation before landing and stay out of harm's way.

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While the Skyscale is effective, I personally find it sluggish and clunky to use. It’s annoying to go down. It clings to walls when I’m trying to fly over it. It’s also funny just sitting and watching other players’ Skyscales wiggle around, weirdly navigating up. It looks so unnatural and awkward just watching it, like it’s still unfinished.

It could use some QoL changes.

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@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Is Skyscale worth it for me? What Skyscale?Fixed that for you.

For me, on the other hand, the Skyscale is worth it so much more than I expected. It is like a quality of life overhaul combining the movement abilites of all of the other mounts (minus jackal sand portals and beetle walls or course) rolled into one mount. It goes up and down and across precisely where I want it to go, without having to calculate for turn or break speed, or having to switch mounts on the fly. No more getting stuck in combat in front of a cliff because I didn't get to switch from raptor to springer before some critter caught up with me. No more missing a small target platform because of the griffon's huge turn angle and break path. And most of all no more motion sickness from weird skimmer or beetle movements, springers sliding down cliffs, or even raptors getting stuck on tiny bushes along their path.

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The gold -> gem ratio was favorable yesterday, so made sure I stocked up in case they release the skins today. I thought buying the War Eternal prep pack for the Primeval Griff skin was going to be the last mount skin I would buy in this game. Didn't think I would be raiding my gold storage so soon after.... :cry:

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@Rasimir.6239 said:

@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Is Skyscale worth it
for me
? What Skyscale?Fixed that for you.

That was already a given, it's fairly obvious that we're talking about difference in personal opinion, but whatever.

For me, on the other hand, the Skyscale is worth it so much more than I expected. It is like a quality of life overhaul combining the movement abilites of all of the other mounts (minus jackal sand portals and beetle walls or course) rolled into one mount. It goes up and down and across precisely where I want it to go, without having to calculate for turn or break speed, or having to switch mounts on the fly. No more getting stuck in combat in front of a cliff because I didn't get to switch from raptor to springer before some critter caught up with me. No more missing a small target platform because of the griffon's huge turn angle and break path. And most of all no more motion sickness from weird skimmer or beetle movements, springers sliding down cliffs, or even raptors getting stuck on tiny bushes along their path.

I have to call that baloney. Flying speed is dominated by the Griffon, land speed is dominated by Rollerbeetle, and over the water speed is dominated by the Skimmer. All the other mounts are utility mounts. The Skyscale does nothing that other mounts can already do better. It's not a combination of all mounts into one. It's a mount that has no identity other than being a dragon.

If the Skyscale can grab the wall, climb that wall a few feet in all direction, then launch from that new position, I can see a lot of uses for that ability. As it is now, it does nothing important.

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@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:

@Rasimir.6239 said:For me, on the other hand, the Skyscale is worth it so much more than I expected. It is like a quality of life overhaul
combining the movement abilites of all of the other mounts (minus jackal sand portals and beetle walls or course) rolled into one mount.
It goes up and down and across precisely where I want it to go, without having to calculate for turn or break speed, or having to switch mounts on the fly. No more getting stuck in combat in front of a cliff because I didn't get to switch from raptor to springer before some critter caught up with me. No more missing a small target platform because of the griffon's huge turn angle and break path. And most of all no more motion sickness from weird skimmer or beetle movements, springers sliding down cliffs, or even raptors getting stuck on tiny bushes along their path.

I have to call that baloney. Flying speed is dominated by the Griffon, land speed is dominated by Rollerbeetle, and over the water speed is dominated by the Skimmer. All the other mounts are utility mounts. The Skyscale does nothing that other mounts can already do better. It's not a combination of all mounts into one. It's a mount that has no identity other than being a dragon.Did you read the paragraph you quoted? If you are into speed that's good for you, but for me, skimmer and beetle are the biggest offenders when it comes to motion sickness, with the griffon joining their ranks if I ever dare to try and land on a specific spot. I don't care about speed, I much prefer to play without having to lie down in a dark room with a splitting headache and ready to vomit after 10 minutes of gametime. And once you take speed out of the equation (why would I care about speed anyway? I'm here to enjoy myself, there's more than enough hustle and bustle in my life outside of gametime) everything I said stands.

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