Opopanax.1803 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I don't get the new berzerker. I drop f1, then get locked out of any finishers for 15 seconds! I literally feel like I am supposed to suck my thumb. Sure, I can thread some skills on CD that I didn't use to build adrenaline in Berzerker Mode, but ultimately this ends up going to a very boring rotation including at least some autoattacking.And I missing something here as a berzerker condi warrior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick.1942 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Condi warrior has been ignored after Anet rework berserker and call this (lose our burst skill) as trade off to make GS primal burst skill become stronger. Im sure they will not rolling it back to old zerker, so..no you dont miss anything here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Your rotation is a lot more than just the F1. Use weapon rotations as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryorion.9532 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Well, some people here are ok with this rework, being locked out from the profession mechanics completely for 15 seconds every 15-20+ seconds, as trade-off while doing power bursts lower than 5+ of other specs.Arc Divider cleave is brutal, though. The saviour of berserker rework.I hope we will see some additional changes in incoming balance patch soon™. The only thing berserker really needs imo is better berserk management (and slightly increased burst as pure DPS non-banner berserker in PvE), unless ANet introduces some trade-offs to other specs of other professions that will limit their "special mode" usage in some way... but can't see that happening with e.g. Dragonhunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 @"cryorion.9532" said:Well, some people here are ok with this rework, being locked out from the profession mechanics completely for 15 seconds every 15-20+ seconds, as trade-off while doing power bursts lower than 5+ of other specs.Just because some specs got power creeped, it doesn't mean we should support it and introduce more power creep into the game. Instead of complaining about "not matching broken specs", complain about broken specs being broken. Berk has to be "locked out of f1 skills" for a certain duration (when out of berk), otherwise it's just a base warrior with more dmg 50% of the time. Not sure how's that still so hard to understand for some people, but k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Well I don't like power berserker, so arc divider is moot. Plus one skill carry the entire spec surely can't be a good thing...And unfortunately, no, weapon skills when out of berzerker mode are not enough to fill the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 @Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 @Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Ah, misunderstood -probably because I couldn't care less about condi warrior. :p 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 @Sobx.1758 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Ah, misunderstood -probably because I couldn't care less about condi warrior. :p Heh. I realize we have a smaller following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Well you could try OH axe for the quickness to put up more bleed stacks, but you are right that Berserker is a better condi warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Opopanax.1803 said:@"Sobx.1758" said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Get better at your class. The biggest gap is aproximately 8 seconds between finishing you last F1 and having to use skills again: When not running pleb groups or f-ing up your rotation that is, on banner condi berserker.The gaps on condi berserker dps are near non existant if played correctly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick.1942 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Cyninja.2954 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@"Sobx.1758" said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Get better at your class. The biggest gap is aproximately 8 seconds between finishing you last F1 and having to use skills again: When not running pleb groups or f-ing up your rotation that is, on banner condi berserker.The gaps on condi berserker dps are near non existant if played correctly: That golem test only useful for special and simple situation(like raid). in a large fight or chaos fight, you cant say everything will proceed as planned.Well i don't want to bring that subject up again. since "someone" here will try to make it right. And as "someone" said : " I couldn't care less about condi warrior." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 I play condi B.S. And it is more than 8 seconds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Well you could try OH axe for the quickness to put up more bleed stacks, but you are right that Berserker is a better condi warrior. I may just need to go core warrior again honestly...Just not as excited about playstyle... or changing my vipers gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Opopanax.1803 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Well you could try OH axe for the quickness to put up more bleed stacks, but you are right that Berserker is a better condi warrior. I may just need to go core warrior again honestly...Just not as excited about playstyle... or changing my vipers gear.Sword/axe + Longbow. Arms, Disc, Tactics. Axe is for the quickness so you can put out more bleeds if you don't have it from elsewhere. So, for non-raids just do that with your viper's gear. Frankly I'm not sure what the benchmarks are for core condi warrior, but if you like condi and warriors then its either berserker condi or core condi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Well you could try OH axe for the quickness to put up more bleed stacks, but you are right that Berserker is a better condi warrior. I may just need to go core warrior again honestly...Just not as excited about playstyle... or changing my vipers gear.Sword/axe + Longbow. Arms, Disc, Tactics. Axe is for the quickness so you can put out more bleeds if you don't have it from elsewhere. So, for non-raids just do that with your viper's gear. Frankly I'm not sure what the benchmarks are for core condi warrior, but if you like condi and warriors then its either berserker condi or core condi.I do like condi, but at this point I might need to go to core power PS. Berzerker is not doing it for me anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 @Opopanax.1803 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Opopanax.1803 said:@Sobx.1758 said:Well, then play core warrior, because apparently that's what you want to play.No, I want to play condi and you can't play core condi as a warrior.Well you could try OH axe for the quickness to put up more bleed stacks, but you are right that Berserker is a better condi warrior. I may just need to go core warrior again honestly...Just not as excited about playstyle... or changing my vipers gear.Sword/axe + Longbow. Arms, Disc, Tactics. Axe is for the quickness so you can put out more bleeds if you don't have it from elsewhere. So, for non-raids just do that with your viper's gear. Frankly I'm not sure what the benchmarks are for core condi warrior, but if you like condi and warriors then its either berserker condi or core condi.I do like condi, but at this point I might need to go to core power PS. Berzerker is not doing it for me anymore...I feel you. Well, happy theorcrafting a new build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashberry.4510 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I still enjoy condi zerk warrior. I still deplore new zerker. Definitely less fun for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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