Soulbeast needs this !

[Cyno.4897]

Ever been on a mount as Soulbeast to engage a close group of enemies? 10 seconds.Ever wanted some breakbar damage in raids and fractals? 10 seconds.Ever wanted that nice pull of [Prelude Lash] but you are still on your dps pet for that sweet deadly or ferocious damage? 10 seconds.Ever been in brief downstate? 10 seconds baby!10 Seconds of having your juvenile juvenile out when you just want to use some cool ability that another pet has.What happens in a fight in 10 Seconds?It ends. Or you don't need that ability anymore, so why swap to a buffless pet?

RANGER NEEDS REDUCED COOLDOWN ON BEASTMODE

This would finally bring ranger close to what other classes have to offer in terms of utility AND make the class more than just a petless 2012 core ranger.That's it.

[ArmageddonAsh.6430]

No. Before that. They need to make pet traits and skills actually ALL work when in Beastmode, rather than just some of them. Thenw e can talk about the MUCH needed cool down reduction.

[Dojo.1867]

We don't need cooldown reduction. We just have to be able to pet swap in beastmode ...

[Mic.1897]

Soulbeast is going to need a lot more than the ideas suggested in this thread if it ever wants to compete with Druid.

[anduriell.6280]

@Lome.8239 said:Soulbeast is going to need a lot more than the ideas suggested in this thread if it ever wants to compete with Druid or core ranger.FTFY.

[TriEdge.5149]

Pet swap in beast mode first, then cooldown reduction

[ITheNormalPerson.9275]

I'd rather have it how it functions currently, i.e. it's a free ticket to resurrecting your pet, rather than have a lower cooldown but not do that. (which if they were to lower the CD, would easily be a really strong mechanic in some cases)

[Sol.4310]

I don't think we going to see any changes come end of season patch, just bug fixes. Soulbeast isn't bad by any means has decent damage if you take Sic Em which you should if your Soulbeast only way your going to take down targets fast, or your no better than Druid and better off going Druid atleast then your survival is higher.

[ArmageddonAsh.6430]

@Sol.4310 said:I don't think we going to see any changes come end of season patch, just bug fixes. Soulbeast isn't bad by any means has decent damage if you take Sic Em which you should if your Soulbeast only way your going to take down targets fast, or your no better than Druid and better off going Druid atleast then your survival is higher.

It might not be bad, but it isnt great and as you say, whats the point of taking Soul beast if you can do better just going Ranger or Druid? It does need work. Not huge buffs or anything but tweaks to damage, few QoL changes and such. When it comes to PvP and WvW i think the MUCH needed nerfs to other classes will help us a lot as well.

[Sol.4310]

@ArmageddonAsh.6430 said:

@Sol.4310 said:I don't think we going to see any changes come end of season patch, just bug fixes. Soulbeast isn't bad by any means has decent damage if you take Sic Em which you should if your Soulbeast only way your going to take down targets fast, or your no better than Druid and better off going Druid atleast then your survival is higher.

It might not be bad, but it isnt great and as you say, whats the point of taking Soul beast if you can do better just going Ranger or Druid? It does need work. Not huge buffs or anything but tweaks to damage, few QoL changes and such. When it comes to PvP and WvW i think the MUCH needed nerfs to other classes will help us a lot as well.

Well I do understand there is big list of changes and bug fixes needed for Soulbeast, I've had good success and I also see its downfalls it has atm. What I'm trying to say is if you don't take Sic'Em your damage isn't much different to doing Druid setup along same lines, at least as a druid your going to support your team better with damage around the same.

[ArmageddonAsh.6430]

@Sol.4310 said:Well I do understand there is big list of changes and bug fixes needed for Soulbeast, I've had good success and I also see its downfalls it has atm. What I'm trying to say is if you don't take Sic'Em your damage isn't much different to doing Druid setup along same lines, at least as a druid your going to support your team better with damage around the same.

Yeah which says something, needing 40% increased damage abilities to get near the kinda damage that Druids can do while they will also have MUCH better survivability. I would say the traits need work, quite a few meh ones and ones that other classes get at lower tiers with LOWER cool downs and better effects (Eternal Bond Vs Dead or Alive...)

I wouldn't say it needs huge buffs or total reworks but for example i'd like to see:

1) Pet swap in Beast mode2) Beast mode skills being looked at, some are kinda meh or have too long cast time and/or cool downs3) Traits, skills and abilities that focus on pets should be adjusted to work correctly when in beast mode and not just some of them work4) Dagger could use some love

[samanosuke asakura.6240]

they should make exiting beastmode also rewarding with something not only entering it

[Sol.4310]

@ArmageddonAsh.6430 said:

@Sol.4310 said:Well I do understand there is big list of changes and bug fixes needed for Soulbeast, I've had good success and I also see its downfalls it has atm. What I'm trying to say is if you don't take Sic'Em your damage isn't much different to doing Druid setup along same lines, at least as a druid your going to support your team better with damage around the same.

Yeah which says something, needing 40% increased damage abilities to get near the kinda damage that Druids can do while they will also have MUCH better survivability. I would say the traits need work, quite a few meh ones and ones that other classes get at lower tiers with LOWER cool downs and better effects (Eternal Bond Vs Dead or Alive...)

I wouldn't say it needs huge buffs or total reworks but for example i'd like to see:

1) Pet swap in Beast mode2) Beast mode skills being looked at, some are kinda meh or have too long cast time and/or cool downs3) Traits, skills and abilities that focus on pets should be adjusted to work correctly when in beast mode and not just some of them work4) Dagger could use some love

I'd like to see pet swap in beast mode, and traits that affect pet swap work in beast mode. Dagger, will never get used as main hand item, we just don't have survival and the damage from dagger is no better than the sword so why take weapon has no survival.

Time will tell hopefully they can get it together and really make us shine, but that's pipe dream lol.

[Sojourner.4621]

@Sol.4310 said:

@ArmageddonAsh.6430 said:

@Sol.4310 said:I don't think we going to see any changes come end of season patch, just bug fixes. Soulbeast isn't bad by any means has decent damage if you take Sic Em which you should if your Soulbeast only way your going to take down targets fast, or your no better than Druid and better off going Druid atleast then your survival is higher.

It might not be bad, but it isnt great and as you say, whats the point of taking Soul beast if you can do better just going Ranger or Druid? It does need work. Not huge buffs or anything but tweaks to damage, few QoL changes and such. When it comes to PvP and WvW i think the MUCH needed nerfs to other classes will help us a lot as well.

Well I do understand there is big list of changes and bug fixes needed for Soulbeast, I've had good success and I also see its downfalls it has atm. What I'm trying to say is if you don't take Sic'Em your damage isn't much different to doing Druid setup along same lines, at least as a druid your going to support your team better with damage around the same.

I assume you are talking about power Soulbeast since Sic em doesn't affect condition damage, but either on a power OR a condition setup Soulbeast does objectively more damage than druid or core ranger... a lot more... and while you lose some survivability over druid, you are already sacrificing some of that any time you take a pure DPS spec anyway.

[psizone.8437]

@Sol.4310 said:I don't think we going to see any changes come end of season patch, just bug fixes. Soulbeast isn't bad by any means has decent damage if you take Sic Em which you should if your Soulbeast only way your going to take down targets fast, or your no better than Druid and better off going Druid atleast then your survival is higher.

Having to rely on Sic Em for a decent burst is awful and limits the utilities we can take. I'd much rather they removed the use of Sic Em in Beastmode and have them buff our base damage and our merged abilities.

I'm extremely worried that there will come a time when people will complain about our damage because of Sic Em and we'll receive an unwarranted nerf to our base damage because of it.

[ArmageddonAsh.6430]

@Sol.4310 said:I'd like to see pet swap in beast mode, and traits that affect pet swap work in beast mode. Dagger, will never get used as main hand item, we just don't have survival and the damage from dagger is no better than the sword so why take weapon has no survival.

Time will tell hopefully they can get it together and really make us shine, but that's pipe dream lol.

Yeah, pet swap in Beastmode would help SO much, maybe even a reduction to beastmode as well. Have it so that the pet swap follows over when you enter/leave beastmode. Yeah dagger needs a LOT of work, its not too bad, its just as strong as sword or anything. Maybe buffs to Dagger and a buff to Predator's Cunning as well, both damage healing would also help Dagger a lot. As you're not going to get much use of it outside of using Dagger.

I am having a LOT of fun with my Soulbeast Power build, As a WvW roamer. I have great mobility, really good Burst damage and sustained damage, stun breaks, condi removal. I do want to try Defender Runseset for that little bit of extra survivability, but would mean dropping Berserker Runeset. Though i have no use of the condition damage but the power and 5% increased damage that doesnt rely on having Might, Fury or something is good.

[Lazze.9870]

@Sojourner.4621 said:

@Sol.4310 said:

@ArmageddonAsh.6430 said:

@Sol.4310 said:I don't think we going to see any changes come end of season patch, just bug fixes. Soulbeast isn't bad by any means has decent damage if you take Sic Em which you should if your Soulbeast only way your going to take down targets fast, or your no better than Druid and better off going Druid atleast then your survival is higher.

It might not be bad, but it isnt great and as you say, whats the point of taking Soul beast if you can do better just going Ranger or Druid? It does need work. Not huge buffs or anything but tweaks to damage, few QoL changes and such. When it comes to PvP and WvW i think the MUCH needed nerfs to other classes will help us a lot as well.

Well I do understand there is big list of changes and bug fixes needed for Soulbeast, I've had good success and I also see its downfalls it has atm. What I'm trying to say is if you don't take Sic'Em your damage isn't much different to doing Druid setup along same lines, at least as a druid your going to support your team better with damage around the same.

I assume you are talking about power Soulbeast since Sic em doesn't affect condition damage, but either on a power OR a condition setup Soulbeast does objectively more damage than druid or core ranger... a lot more... and while you lose some survivability over druid, you are already sacrificing some of that any time you take a pure DPS spec anyway.

"Some surviveability". It's at the cost of a ridiculous amount of suriviveability. Not compared to druid, but compared to a full core ranger.A core BM, NM, WS ranger beats soulbeast 10/10 times regardless of what other traitlines that soulbeast runs.

[Lazze.9870]

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