WHAT IF WE REMOVE CONDI CLEANSE FOR BALANCE?

[SeikeNz.3526]

instead of condi cleanse just give a boon with 5s of 50-70% condi dmg reduction, this will be way better for game play, condi classes still do their dmg but don't get overnerfed

[Fueki.4753]

Nerf condi cleanse and take down condition application by 80% as well.There is too much of that bursting in PvP.

[Hashberry.4510]

What if we acknowledge balance is a mirage and just enjoy the game play?

[SeikeNz.3526]

@Hashberry.4510 said:What if we acknowledge balance is a mirage and just enjoy the game play?

condi daredevil/holos are way worse

[Justine.6351]

Cleansing conditions actively has always been a thing in both gw2 and gw1.

The difference is that in gw1 Condi damage is restricted to health Regen/degen pips that is hard capped to +/- 10 which is ~ 4% of a players health. If you had -10 degen on you that was bad.

Condition damage should not have been a 2 stat damage source when power is 3 stat. It gives a Condi player a lot of free stat points to bunker up. It probably would have been better if condition damage/duration could not be augmented but instead were supplemental debuffs. But here we are with super easy condition removal but still super easy condition application. I guess things are fine idk.

[sitarskee.5738]

Remove conditions. Let's all play power.

[ROMANG.1903]

@Justine.6351 said:Cleansing conditions actively has always been a thing in both gw2 and gw1.

The difference is that in gw1 Condi damage is restricted to health Regen/degen pips that is hard capped to +/- 10 which is ~ 4% of a players health. If you had -10 degen on you that was bad.

Condition damage should not have been a 2 stat damage source when power is 3 stat. It gives a Condi player a lot of free stat points to bunker up. It probably would have been better if condition damage/duration could not be augmented but instead were supplemental debuffs. But here we are with super easy condition removal but still super easy condition application. I guess things are fine idk.

Would making critical hits apply twice the conditions of that hit fix the issue you seem to bring up, assuming we then nerf conditions across the game to account for that substantial buff?

[Obtena.7952]

@SeikeNz.3526 said:

@Hashberry.4510 said:What if we acknowledge balance is a mirage and just enjoy the game play?

condi daredevil/holos are way worse

Sure, but that doesn't change what he said ...

[VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.]

@SeikeNz.3526 said:instead of condi cleanse just give a boon with 5s of 50-70% condi dmg reduction, this will be way better for game play, condi classes still do their dmg but don't get overnerfed

'still do their damage'. And with that: still do insane amounts of damage.

No thank you.

Condi is already way too powerful.

[Hashberry.4510]

Yep, nothing can make them happy.

[SeikeNz.3526]

@"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:

@SeikeNz.3526 said:instead of condi cleanse just give a boon with 5s of 50-70% condi dmg reduction, this will be way better for game play, condi classes still do their dmg but don't get overnerfed

'still do their damage'. And with that: still do insane amounts of damage.

No thank you.

Condi is already way too powerful.

with cleanse they can just put all again, with a buff like that they will do half damage for some time

[Eloc Freidon.5692]

Considering that I'm used to getting 15 stacks of condis per second and I can only condi cleanse a couple times every 30...