Daniel Handler.4816 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 We've had a lot of discussion on how big the Elder Dragons are. But what about their champions? It seems like the Pale Tree is more than twice the size of Tequatl and larger than any blighting tree we've interacted with. And that was before Modremoth's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 The Pale Tree is indeed pretty darn large. She had 250 years longer than the other Blighting Trees to grow. However, that said, I'm fairly sure that she's not that much bigger than the Blighting Trees in HoT. Especially the three in Dragon's Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Handler.4816 Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:The Pale Tree is indeed pretty darn large. She had 250 years longer than the other Blighting Trees to grow. However, that said, I'm fairly sure that she's not that much bigger than the Blighting Trees in HoT. Especially the three in Dragon's Stand.What are you defining as her body? Because the three Blighting Trees you mention are dwarfed by the Grove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlinvf.1358 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 This is the pale tree when seen from the outside..... https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/3/37/Pale_Tree.jpgI think the only thing close to it in size is the "Heart of Thorns" tree in dragon stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @Daniel Handler.4816 said:@"Konig Des Todes.2086" said:The Pale Tree is indeed pretty darn large. She had 250 years longer than the other Blighting Trees to grow. However, that said, I'm fairly sure that she's not that much bigger than the Blighting Trees in HoT. Especially the three in Dragon's Stand.What are you defining as her body? Because the three Blighting Trees you mention are dwarfed by the Grove. The tree, obviously, since that is her body.If you compare the zone, then yes, they're dwarfed. But if you look at the world map, the tree is the center of the zone, and most of the zone is not the tree. Comparing the space the tree covers, it is roughly the size of those three Blighting Towers in Dragon's Stand.Look at this map, the Pale Tree is largely that bight green circle in The Grove. Which is roughly the same size as the three Blighting Towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 well, some of her even overlaps into Caledon, so actually, yes, the whole zone is her. Her stem, her roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Handler.4816 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:@Daniel Handler.4816 said:@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:The Pale Tree is indeed pretty darn large. She had 250 years longer than the other Blighting Trees to grow. However, that said, I'm fairly sure that she's not that much bigger than the Blighting Trees in HoT. Especially the three in Dragon's Stand.What are you defining as her body? Because the three Blighting Trees you mention are dwarfed by the Grove. The tree, obviously, since that is her body.If you compare the zone, then yes, they're dwarfed. But if you look at the world map, the tree is the center of the zone, and most of the zone is not the tree. Comparing the space the tree covers, it is roughly the size of those three Blighting Towers in Dragon's Stand.Look at this map, the Pale Tree is largely that bight green circle in The Grove. Which is roughly the same size as the three Blighting Towers.@"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:well, some of her even overlaps into Caledon, so actually, yes, the whole zone is her. Her stem, her roots. I can go in person to all the blighting towers we can visit. But I was hoping more for a pulled model than using 2d world maps to determine whether she does or does not extend into the zone. Given the Sylvari starting area is Caledon forest and I see massive roots I am leaning towards she does. edit: She appears smaller than Mordremoth's tree, but much larger than the Blighting Trees. Each of the three in Dragon Stand appear to offer the surface area of just the upper common's + Omphalos and similar height. Her full height is unknown because of petals obscuring vision. But from depths to the visible top of the upper level she is taller. Taking into consideration roots and "the entire jungle" she is vastly dwarfed by Mordremoth, but is also at least twice as large as any other Blighting Tree.https://imgur.com/a/jyn9zXJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brycar.2651 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I can’t support this with documented lore but I’ve always imagined the tree’s roots and branches reach into the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 @Daniel Handler.4816 said:I can go in person to all the blighting towers we can visit. But I was hoping more for a pulled model than using 2d world maps to determine whether she does or does not extend into the zone. Given the Sylvari starting area is Caledon forest and I see massive roots I am leaning towards she does. I do not believe any of the Blighting Trees - or even the Pale Tree - is a singular model to be pulled.@Brycar.2651 said:I can’t support this with documented lore but I’ve always imagined the tree’s roots and branches reach into the dream. Well, the Dream isn't a physical place, so that wouldn't entirely be the case, but also could be the case at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignigknawt.7869 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Isn't the Grove technically part of her body as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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