Updated WvW World Population [EU] (01/03/2020)

[Carcharoth Lucian.1378]

Just some information from the wiki about the EU population thresholds (don't know if anything change for NA).

Side Note : Piken guys should be happy :D

[Sovereign.1093]

Maybe it's time to kill one very low server and disperse members to the test of the world. Hehe.

[Carcharoth Lucian.1378]

@"Sovereign.1093" said:Maybe it's time to kill one very low server and disperse members to the test of the world. Hehe.

Agreed.It will be better to just have 4 tiers like NA. Some "medium" servers feel empty...For example, Surmia which is with us seems really really low in population : i just spot one guild (Chosen Alliance) and 1 or 2 pugmanders.

[Fish.2769]

@"Carcharoth Lucian.1378" said:

Just some information from the wiki about the EU population thresholds (don't know if anything change for NA).

Side Note : Piken guys should be happy :D

You mean Piken players will only post every 2 weeks about population rather than daily? :open_mouth:

[DanAlcedo.3281]

Kodash being medium is wierd.

I remember the time before the language barrier was removed and kodadh was full with nobody playing.

Now we have way more playing and we are medium.

?

[Rhiannon.1726]

@"DanAlcedo.3281" said:Kodash being medium is wierd.

I remember the time before the language barrier was removed and kodadh was full with nobody playing.

Now we have way more playing and we are medium.

?

That's most likely because Gunnar's Hold changed from "medium" to "very high" and many of the people you see playing are from there.

[Sovereign.1093]

Relinking is near. So, people shouldn't change until it happens.

[Nimon.7840]

Lol. Miller's sound should be on status "empty" xD

[miguelsil.6324]

@Sovereign.1093 said:Maybe it's time to kill one very low server and disperse members to the test of the world. Hehe.

Would this not kill roaming even more as it would promote brainless zerging with more number stacked on same spot?

[Fish.2769]

@DanAlcedo.3281 said:Kodash being medium is wierd.

I remember the time before the language barrier was removed and kodadh was full with nobody playing.

Now we have way more playing and we are medium.

?

Wasn't that before everyone deserted Kodash for Dzagnour?

[Sovereign.1093]

@miguelsil.6324 said:

@Sovereign.1093 said:Maybe it's time to kill one very low server and disperse members to the test of the world. Hehe.

Would this not kill roaming even more as it would promote brainless zerging with more number stacked on same spot?

It wont. You can always kill the backline. And the enjoyment of the many outweights the few. Also you can coordinate 1v1s

[aspirine.6852]

@miguelsil.6324 said:

@Sovereign.1093 said:Maybe it's time to kill one very low server and disperse members to the test of the world. Hehe.

Would this not kill roaming even more as it would promote brainless zerging with more number stacked on same spot?

Dunno but on the 2 servers I am on roaming is already dead. There are still a few trying, but it is nothing like it was before.

[miguelsil.6324]

And the enjoyment of the many outweights the few. Also you can coordinate 1v1s

Well that being said WvW will just become more empty and with less diversity. WvW is not only about zerging as people assume, you have roaming and havoc that are players that require a little more brain matter gameplay instead of playing "Lemmings Wars 2".

Sorry but If the mode has to please all to an extent or it will continue the free fall is has suffered so far.

[bluberblasen.9684]

vacation players on EU servers...tomorrow this servers are empty again.

[Sovereign.1093]

@"miguelsil.6324" said:And the enjoyment of the many outweights the few. Also you can coordinate 1v1s

Well that being said WvW will just become more empty and with less diversity. WvW is not only about zerging as people assume, you have roaming and havoc that are players that require a little more brain matter gameplay instead of playing "Lemmings Wars 2".

Sorry but If the mode has to please all to an extent or it will continue the free fall is has suffered so far.

my point exactly. it can't please all, but it can please the majority - zergers.

[Arctisavange.7261]

@Fish.2769 said:

@"Carcharoth Lucian.1378" said:

Just some information from the wiki about the EU population thresholds (don't know if anything change for NA).

Side Note : Piken guys should be happy :D

You mean Piken players will only post every 2 weeks about population rather than daily? :open_mouth:

Im pretty certain Piken people had every right to complain about population update. Given anet cant do their jobs swiftly and properly in terms of that subject.

[SWI.4127]

@Arctisavange.7261 said:

@Fish.2769 said:

@"Carcharoth Lucian.1378" said:

Just some information from the wiki about the EU population thresholds (don't know if anything change for NA).

Side Note : Piken guys should be happy :D

You mean Piken players will only post every 2 weeks about population rather than daily? :open_mouth:

Im pretty certain Piken people had every right to complain about population update. Given anet cant do their jobs swiftly and properly in terms of that subject.

Server statuses take awhile to update and it's honestly probably better that way. Otherwise a full server could just stop playing for a week and get opened easily.

[XenesisII.1540]

Populations aren't updated as soon as a group of people leave a server, it's an average taken over a period of time, this is why most updates seem to happen mostly on mondays and not every single day of the week. It needs to have a longer period to adjust because people will just con the system if it's constantly updated for every little move on and off a server or people stop playing for a period of time because it also looks at active wvw hours for the past weeks. Population thresholds also look like they could have been adjusted recently, which could explain why it took a little longer for adjustments.

But some people are idiotic and think just because people aren't on their time they feel like no one is on their server, just because a guild leaves doesn't mean you're automatically dropped from full to medium status unless you're the bottom of the barrel server, there's thousands of players playing wvw 24/7 not just the 30-50 you see in your map during your time on. Then people come in here complaining oh man when are they going to unlock my full server so we can recruit more people, meanwhile half the servers haven't even been full in like 4-5 years.

[Fish.2769]

@Arctisavange.7261 said:

@Fish.2769 said:

@"Carcharoth Lucian.1378" said:

Just some information from the wiki about the EU population thresholds (don't know if anything change for NA).

Side Note : Piken guys should be happy :D

You mean Piken players will only post every 2 weeks about population rather than daily? :open_mouth:

Im pretty certain Piken people had every right to complain about population update. Given anet cant do their jobs swiftly and properly in terms of that subject.

This would suggest you know how their system works and every variable that they take into acc... Never mind, you don't. :D

[XECOR.2814]

@XenesisII.1540 said:Populations aren't updated as soon as a group of people leave a server, it's an average taken over a period of time, this is why most updates seem to happen mostly on mondays and not every single day of the week. It needs to have a longer period to adjust because people will just con the system if it's constantly updated for every little move on and off a server or people stop playing for a period of time because it also looks at active wvw hours for the past weeks. Population thresholds also look like they could have been adjusted recently, which could explain why it took a little longer for adjustments.

But some people are idiotic and think just because people aren't on their time they feel like no one is on their server, just because a guild leaves doesn't mean you're automatically dropped from full to medium status unless you're the bottom of the barrel server, there's thousands of players playing wvw 24/7 not just the 30-50 you see in your map during your time on. Then people come in here complaining oh man when are they going to unlock my full server so we can recruit more people, meanwhile half the servers haven't even been full in like 4-5 years.

Guilds left because they were the only ones playing, constantly highly outnumbered and it was impossible to not realize that there is no way they are full and fighting highly outnumbered on all borders all the time was not enjoyable for them.

[Svarty.8019]

@Fish.2769 said:

@Carcharoth Lucian.1378 said:[..]

Just some information from the wiki about the EU population thresholds (don't know if anything change for NA).

Side Note : Piken guys should be happy :D

You mean Piken players will only post every 2 weeks about population rather than daily? :open_mouth:

Whining on forums is the only way to get anything changed the way you want it to be changed. Every ganker knows it.

@Arctisavange.7261 said:Im pretty certain Piken people had every right to complain about population update. Given anet cant do their jobs swiftly and properly in terms of that subject.

Arenanet can do things very quickly when it suits them. Look at the Lance ability - Ben knocked that together a few weeks before it got published. It's just a shame they ... er ... make some questionable decisions ... have a ... unique(!) vision for the gamemode ... they're very special people.

[googel.3278]

WSR are condi tryhards i heard

[kamikharzeeh.8016]

@Sovereign.1093 said:Maybe it's time to kill one very low server and disperse members to the test of the world. Hehe.

i know you wrote that jokingly, but seperating some of the lowest medium servers to full up the others would maybe work?

@ miguel that would not promote zerging more than it is currently; after prime, weekly reset and relinks we have pretty much 40 people spreading over the maps, not doing anything, flip/defending camps, keeping eyes on eventual ninja zergs etc... more people is after all always good for Wvw, even if some wannabe-elitists will cry that it's just "walking bags"; then again, rarely to never does a blob get pushed by 15 people, regardless how good they are.