Sorem.9157 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just a heads upThis meta is starting to look a lot like the heart of thorns release chronobunker meta that killed PvP competitive sceneMight be just me but thats reason for panic, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Sadly, we knew this even before this patch. And many players told Anet that, but nope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Nah even if it was like a period in time it doesn’t mean same thing will happen also I think there will a few more sweeps to make sure it won’t be actually bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 @Sorem.9157 said:Just a heads upThis meta is starting to look a lot like the heart of thorns release chronobunker meta that killed PvP competitive sceneMight be just me but thats reason for panic, right?That is ironic, considering that crazy damage did effectively kill pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exitus.3297 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 They nerfed all if not most of the damage in the game. As much as they said they would give the same treatment to healing and sustain, they really didn't. It's definitely going to be a bunker meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine.5014 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Necro, FB, Condi Rev are definitely overtuned. That doesn't mean the meta is as bad as before. The above class can still be killed. Chrono was unkillable 1v3. That was much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monotony.4931 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 This is not even close to HoT nonsense. It's in fact miles ahead of anything that has happened since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorem.9157 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 @"Sunshine.5014" said:Necro, FB, Condi Rev are definitely overtuned. That doesn't mean the meta is as bad as before. The above class can still be killed. Chrono was unkillable 1v3. That was much worse. Yes, I agree that while Chrono was stronger back then, the gameplay resembles a lot what we had before. Right now it is very AoE condi bunkerish gameplay. Classes with multiple aoe hits that don't require too much timing or aiming in order to land their skills are rising way up above and as much as the numbers are larger than what we had back then, the "style" is the same as in gameplay. Mindless spam with very little punishment for mistakes. This patch was meant to make PvP more associated with skill and active gameplay but it did the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorem.9157 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Sorem.9157 said:Just a heads upThis meta is starting to look a lot like the heart of thorns release chronobunker meta that killed PvP competitive sceneMight be just me but thats reason for panic, right?That is ironic, considering that crazy damage did effectively kill pvp.You clearly weren't here when PvP peaked and Heart of Thorns released and we had what can only be called as the last official PvP tournament, which was a complete failure. Crazy damage didn't kill PvP. Mindless gameplay that doesn't require thinking to execute did. It has been awhile that problem with PvP wasn't balance, it was bad gameplay generated from overall powercreep. Very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArlAlt.1630 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 @Sorem.9157 said:@"Sunshine.5014" said:Necro, FB, Condi Rev are definitely overtuned. That doesn't mean the meta is as bad as before. The above class can still be killed. Chrono was unkillable 1v3. That was much worse. Yes, I agree that while Chrono was stronger back then, the gameplay resembles a lot what we had before. Right now it is very AoE condi bunkerish gameplay. Classes with multiple aoe hits that don't require too much timing or aiming in order to land their skills are rising way up above and as much as the numbers are larger than what we had back then, the "style" is the same as in gameplay. Mindless spam with very little punishment for mistakes. This patch was meant to make PvP more associated with skill and active gameplay but it did the opposite.It is only so because, you have a few outliers that missed the mark by a margin as long as the distance to the moon.Cool your panties and give em till next Tuesday. After that I say, get your pitchforks people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claytonmorby.3751 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 @Sorem.9157 said:@"Sunshine.5014" said:Necro, FB, Condi Rev are definitely overtuned. That doesn't mean the meta is as bad as before. The above class can still be killed. Chrono was unkillable 1v3. That was much worse. Yes, I agree that while Chrono was stronger back then, the gameplay resembles a lot what we had before. Right now it is very AoE condi bunkerish gameplay. Classes with multiple aoe hits that don't require too much timing or aiming in order to land their skills are rising way up above and as much as the numbers are larger than what we had back then, the "style" is the same as in gameplay. Mindless spam with very little punishment for mistakes. This patch was meant to make PvP more associated with skill and active gameplay but it did the opposite.It was mindless spam beforehand. You didn't have to worry about missing a big ability because you could just burst stuff down so easily. What multiple aoe hits are a problem? It's my understanding that people are complaining about 2v2s, so not sure how aoe comes into it.Comparing it to the HoT bunker meta is laughable as well. You had ESL teams /gg once a team capped mid because it was impossible to force bunkers off.PvP wasn't killed due to balance, it was near dead when Anet tried to start the ESL and the half ass attempt at real ranked killed it for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just chill for kittens sake.....The 5v5 conquest season will show what is OP and what's not. Anet clearly didn't think to balance classes around 2v2 mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrauls.6519 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 With all the posts on Necromancer & Firebrand, I was expecting a patch update the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 @"mrauls.6519" said:With all the posts on Necromancer & Firebrand, I was expecting a patch update the next day----You must be new here to expect anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 @"mrauls.6519" said:With all the posts on Necromancer & Firebrand, I was expecting a patch update the next daythey hotfix nerfed mesmer. Did you srsl think they would nerf anything else? omegalul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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