Gear for raids

[czerwoni.9563]

So is ascended required or can I use exotic? I just don't want to get kicked 100 times for having exotic gear

[Sephylon.4938]

exotic is fine as long as you know what you're doing

[GrubySzymek.1362]

Exotic is enough to kill bosses. None of raid encounters require to hit benchmark numbers already so such small difference in gear department is irrelevant. However, we can't take responsibility for what a group you're going to join is going to do about your gear.

[Cyninja.2954]

Exotic is fine as mentioned. You should though:

• work towards ascended trinkets with correct stats (if you own Living World Season 3 this will go very fast)
• eventually upgrade your weapons to ascended with correct stats (Caladbolg questline after the HoT story, your specialised collection achievement wepons)
• armor can stay exotic for just about as long as you want, the stat increase is not big enough to make a fuss about it

[nagr.1593]

@czerwoni.9563 said:So is ascended required or can I use exotic? I just don't want to get kicked 100 times for having exotic gear

Just a bit of fair warning, having ascended/legendary full set wont prevent you from getting kicked as many times as u describe etc.

I would know as pugs are still kicking others for something they said or wrote on the internet when they was having a bad day (some 6+ months ago) and filtering based on username and propaganda as a litmus test. so beware, a portion of the playerbase is simply of unsound mind.

[Maunzi.3764]

Exotic is "fine", but many groups will kick you for exotic gear.You also do need ascended gear for fractals. If you plan to do more difficult content and lack a core group of friends to do it with, go for ascended gear as soon as possible.

The earlier answers are "truthful" in that it is TECHNICALLY possible to do raids or lower fractals in exotics, but practically, groups frown on this. Weapons are pretty much mandatory in ascended form (the difference is huge, and you'll likely be kicked for low performance if you lack one, since it's unlikely that you will do your rotation good enough at the beginning, so your weapon will make your DPS even worse)

[savacli.8172]

Mechanically, it's possible to do Raids in Exotic. Granted I'm sure a well-oiled machine type squad could probably do it in greens (I'm exaggerating a little). The reason I say that is because some bosses have been completed with as little as 4-5 players so there is plenty of margin for error. The advantage of having Ascended gear is that even if you didn't improve your technique, rotation, etc you would still be bringing about +10% more damage to the table.

For obvious reasons, most groups just want to get in and get out. So if you're coming in with less of a DPS contribution the squad has to make it up somewhere. But then again, in the majority of the encounter lack of DPS won't kill you as much as missing mechanics does. As in I'd rather take an exotic player who knows what he's doing vs a guy in full ascended who can beat up a golem but doesn't know to avoid the blues on VG.

[Agent Noun.7350]

@savacli.8172 said:Granted I'm sure a well-oiled machine type squad could probably do it in greens (I'm exaggerating a little).

You're not exaggerating. I'm pretty sure that's been done.

I wouldn't recommend it, but it's been done.

[Nephalem.8921]

@savacli.8172 said:Mechanically, it's possible to do Raids in Exotic. Granted I'm sure a well-oiled machine type squad could probably do it in greens (I'm exaggerating a little). The reason I say that is because some bosses have been completed with as little as 4-5 players so there is plenty of margin for error. The advantage of having Ascended gear is that even if you didn't improve your technique, rotation, etc you would still be bringing about +10% more damage to the table.

For obvious reasons, most groups just want to get in and get out. So if you're coming in with less of a DPS contribution the squad has to make it up somewhere. But then again, in the majority of the encounter lack of DPS won't kill you as much as missing mechanics does. As in I'd rather take an exotic player who knows what he's doing vs a guy in full ascended who can beat up a golem but doesn't know to avoid the blues on VG.

Most of the damage sits on weapon and trinkets though. Armor without infusions is not that big of a deal.

[Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582]

Find yourself a guild to run with. I never understand why people pug raid at all, it's a recipe for disaster.

[Murdock.6547]

I have personally been a part of an all green vg.It can happen. The biggest issue we faced was killing red in a reasonable amount of time due to no expertise gear in green quality.. but that was solved by having some creative rune choices.

[thrag.9740]

@nagr.1593 said:

@czerwoni.9563 said:So is ascended required or can I use exotic? I just don't want to get kicked 100 times for having exotic gear

Just a bit of fair warning, having ascended/legendary full set wont prevent you from getting kicked as many times as u describe etc.

I would know as pugs are still kicking others for something they said or wrote on the internet when they was having a bad day (some 6+ months ago) and filtering based on username and propaganda as a litmus test. so beware, a portion of the playerbase is simply of unsound mind.Creating and sharing an app to create fake LI chat codes, and thus making it harder to get experienced players is hardly equivalent to a bad statement on a bad day. With that said, I have raided with this person in pugs and they were perfectly fine.

As for OP, gw2 has shifted more towards a meritocracy due to dps meters. I know players who hit good numbers in green gear on their alts (obviously they hit god numbers in their main gear). I recommend you make sure your good at your rotation, exotic is passable, use your raid rewards to get ascended though.

[nagr.1593]

@thrag.9740 It's not an app, it's a Jsfiddle. you can literally search 'li chat code gw2' on google and get it as the 1st hit.

Use cases by the public are not the fault of the owner/distributor, using arc as an example. I simply put it up as a helper for returning veteran players who just get HoT, watch a couple in-depth vids on bosses and read the guides, then realize groups reject them just bc they have double-digit LI. Its easy to sit on the other side of the fence and say that those people should join training runs and do it legit, but not have to get their hands dirty and actually do what they preach. Not all of vet players have same skill levels either, so its plausible some are dealing with lower learning curve than others, esp those that use to solo dungeons like Arah and then sell the runs on a daily basis etc.

That was original intent i want be clear and its not my fault that players abuse it and are having harder time getting legit exp players as a result. Just like how it easy to misuse arc and kick players base on their dps on even worse on their class they join on. that all i want to clear up

[ich.7086]

Magi druid is a good candidate for exotic gear since you are already pretty much overkill in healing power.