SlitheSlivier.1908 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 how does a TRAIT that causes 11 sec of reveal, pulls the target if they get too far away, adds 10% damage, and continually applies might have only a 12 second recharge... and is only a trait? I feel like this is by far the strongest trait. It sure down every class trying to keep a distance and particularly thieves. I thought they were weakening traits to not be game changing by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 That's a weird statement to make -if traits wouldn't be gamechanging, then why even have them in the game at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Lol yeah spellbreaker OP. magebane is fine and no where near OP, peeps ere seriously find anything to complain about. l2p pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 It's a Grandmaster trait, it can be powerful. There are much stronger things out there. The 10% damage amp hardly offsets the damage lost from only having tier 1 bursts etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownmug.8357 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Shouldn't there be a significant reward for being able to land burst skills on a slippery opponent that avoids almost everything? And the fact that it just limits their escape options rather than doing something like a OHKO seems pretty fair actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 @Clownmug.8357 said:Shouldn't there be a significant reward for being able to land burst skills on a slippery opponent that avoids almost everything? And the fact that it just limits their escape options rather than doing something like a OHKO seems pretty fair actually.Anet gave warriors a OHKO. It did not last long at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlitheSlivier.1908 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 So then you would agree that the Necro's Death Shroud skill, Tainted Shackles, should have its cooldown reduced from 30sec to more like 8-10sec since it works similarly but has way less utility and occupies a skill slot, right?Also to help combat Magebane Tether while on any of my ranged toons like necro and ranger, i would need 3-4 stunbreaks since they typically have 30-45sec cooldown. That's a bit ridiculous. Also think of it this way: for thieves it means they essentially can never stealth, which is equatable to a warrior having to fight without armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @SlitheSlivier.1908 said:So then you would agree that the Necro's Death Shroud skill, Tainted Shackles, should have its cooldown reduced from 30sec to more like 8-10sec since it works similarly but has way less utility and occupies a skill slot, right?Also to help combat Magebane Tether while on any of my ranged toons like necro and ranger, i would need 3-4 stunbreaks since they typically have 30-45sec cooldown. That's a bit ridiculous. Also think of it this way: for thieves it means they essentially can never stealth, which is equatable to a warrior having to fight without armor. I dont get players like u, I'm sry. Necro shroud etc are absolutely nothing like magebane, how can the comparison even be made. Magebane revealing thief while tethered is a issue for u lmao? So a warrior isnt allowed to have a reveal skill to help counter invisibility? And ontop its tied to having to land a burst first lol. So poor thief cant go invisible if I gets caught by a predictable burst skill, it should freely just stealth with no counterplay accessible from the warrior? Wow I'm so glad I'm done, hope anet listens to these new players lol. No way this persons a vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyKoti.1928 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I'd like to see Magebane Tether as a Meditation skill replacing one we already have, or enhancing one (meditaions are so useless, I don't understand why they are not changing them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euclid.2517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Have you played spb?After the recent patch even those once LEGENDARY spellbreaker players switch to other builds/professions. And much fewer people plays it based on my matches observation.It is a SINGLE target tether. And even with those "might" the damage of spellbreaker is still underperforming in this patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1) You have to hit with a burst. Totally skill dependent on the Warrior's part and your part as their enemy. Dodge/blind/block/evade/move out of the way of the burst, and you just kneecapped several warrior traits.2) It is now 1 might stack per pulse and it is only a 10% damage modifier. There are plenty of bigger modifiers on other classes. This ain't the damage line for Warrior mate. Those are Strength, Arms, and Berserker.3) Pop stab, or learn to fight in melee range/take a melee set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 As a thief main: Magebane tether is fine. It's punishing, but 1) I should be punished for attacking into a full counter, 2) it rewards unpredictable/skilled play on a very telegraphed class, and 3) if I'm tethered and the warrior goes for the pull I can either just stay close to him (not hard as a thief) or wait for the pull then stunbreak the moment it starts, meaning I stay more or less where I was. Classes with stability should have even less problems: save your stab for if you get tethered, since CC no longer does high damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP.8093 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 My main opinion as a thief and mesmer player is that Magebane Tether seems strong, which is good, because that's part of the spec's identity. If you water everything down, the game's just gonna be a drab slog for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Want Tether nerfed? Mkay then plz nerf all shadowsteps and teleports to 600 range plox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:Want Tether nerfed? Mkay then plz nerf all shadowsteps and teleports to 600 range plox.And put a 3 sec cap on invisibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Psycoprophet.8107 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:Want Tether nerfed? Mkay then plz nerf all shadowsteps and teleports to 600 range plox.And put a 3 sec cap on invisibility While we're asking for things that will never happen right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @SlitheSlivier.1908 said:So then you would agree that the Necro's Death Shroud skill, Tainted Shackles, should have its cooldown reduced from 30sec to more like 8-10sec since it works similarly but has way less utility and occupies a skill slot, right?So you agree that warrior's burst skills should give him a massive shield alongside a fresh weapon skillbar?It's a different class that does different things, calm down. This forum just keeps getting more and more insane. You guys basically want to devolve this game into checkers, because if one class does something that the other can't then IT'S SO BROKEN OMG NERF OR REMOVE ASAP PLS.One class, one weapon set, no traits and one set of utility skills -feels like this is the only way to stop the tears. Clonewars or riot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Sobx.1758 said:@SlitheSlivier.1908 said:So then you would agree that the Necro's Death Shroud skill, Tainted Shackles, should have its cooldown reduced from 30sec to more like 8-10sec since it works similarly but has way less utility and occupies a skill slot, right?So you agree that warrior's burst skills should give him a massive shield alongside a fresh weapon skillbar?It's a different class that does different things, calm down. This forum just keeps getting more and more insane. You guys basically want to devolve this game into checkers, because if one class does something that the other can't then IT'S SO BROKEN OMG NERF OR REMOVE ASAP PLS.One class, one weapon set, no traits and one set of utility set -feels like this is the only way to stop the tears. New WvW event: No Traitlines! Everyone spawns naked and have to pick planks off of the ground to fight with. All profession mechanics locked. Lets see how people feel about it then huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyDad.2158 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Teather will target clones .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@SlitheSlivier.1908 said:So then you would agree that the Necro's Death Shroud skill, Tainted Shackles, should have its cooldown reduced from 30sec to more like 8-10sec since it works similarly but has way less utility and occupies a skill slot, right?So you agree that warrior's burst skills should give him a massive shield alongside a fresh weapon skillbar?It's a different class that does different things, calm down. This forum just keeps getting more and more insane. You guys basically want to devolve this game into checkers, because if one class does something that the other can't then IT'S SO BROKEN OMG NERF OR REMOVE ASAP PLS.One class, one weapon set, no traits and one set of utility set -feels like this is the only way to stop the tears. New WvW event: No Traitlines! Everyone spawns naked and have to pick planks off of the ground to fight with. All profession mechanics locked. Lets see how people feel about it then huh?Finally, perfectly balanced. We did it, reddit gw2forum! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @SlitheSlivier.1908 said:So then you would agree that the Necro's Death Shroud skill, Tainted Shackles, should have its cooldown reduced from 30sec to more like 8-10sec since it works similarly but has way less utility and occupies a skill slot, right?Irrelevant ... what happens on Necro has nothing to do with how SB is designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Sobx.1758 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:New WvW event: No Traitlines! Everyone spawns naked and have to pick planks off of the ground to fight with. All profession mechanics locked. Lets see how people feel about it then huh?Finally, perfectly balanced. We did it, reddit gw2forum!Imo you'd have to put every profession's health pool at the same level as well for this. Otherwise you'd have only necromancers and warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Dadnir.5038 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:New WvW event: No Traitlines! Everyone spawns naked and have to pick planks off of the ground to fight with. All profession mechanics locked. Lets see how people feel about it then huh?Finally, perfectly balanced. We did it, reddit gw2forum!Imo you'd have to put every profession's health pool at the same level as well for this. Otherwise you'd have only necromancers and warriors.And no ranger pets allowed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:@Dadnir.5038 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:New WvW event: No Traitlines! Everyone spawns naked and have to pick planks off of the ground to fight with. All profession mechanics locked. Lets see how people feel about it then huh?Finally, perfectly balanced. We did it, reddit gw2forum!Imo you'd have to put every profession's health pool at the same level as well for this. Otherwise you'd have only necromancers and warriors.And no ranger pets allowed!Isn't this a profession mechanism that you already conveniently blocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Yeah lol, let's complain about the weakest clast atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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