Euclid.2517 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Hi new to mesmer. What does core mesmer offer that E spec don't?I find out that mirage has exactly same shatter skills as core mesmer.Any trade off?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Nothing of significance. Core power can deal more damage per shatter. But in PvE chrono can shatter far more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoci.2481 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 You have room for a utility spec like Inspiration or Chaos. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodle Ant.1605 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Due to the lack of (reliable) upfront +dmg% traits on either espec, core can be built to quickly dish out more dmg before the opponents stops afking.The advantages pretty much end there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viquing.8254 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 More burst and/or sustain than mirage who is more mobile instead.For example :PU core has better instant burst thanks to stealth setup. Illusion core shatter burst has higher burst.Signet has more on point sustain than mirage.Now mirage mobility is better in a +1 role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 @"viquing.8254" said:Signet has more on point sustain than mirage.Ah yes, the "decap me" build :expressionless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliviscaris.6937 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 The actual answer you're looking for is 'flexibility'. With a core build, you're able to cover more bases in terms of needs. The Chronomancy and Mirage lines (aside from changing fundamental mechanics i.e. dodge and shatters) have distinct playstyles that they funnel you towards. Core offers more freedom.Core builds will also often tend to have room to include and/or base a build off of/around the Illusion traitline (arguably the best line the Mesmer has access to) without having to sacrifice too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASP.8093 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Taking Mirage means you're stuck with only 1 dodge in WvW/PvP.Taking Chrono means you don't get Distortion (Invuln) on F4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 If you look at it realistically nothing.Chrono/Mirage will do better whatever the heck you want your mesmer to do in pve.You can find some "excuse" of being better at something, but in the end especs will offer more, more damage, more utility or more support for the team.The only thing that comes to mind is that CORE power build COULD MAYBE have more burst damage then power chrono, while losing BIG TIME in longer fights( and by longer I mean longer then 3s ) But after dry shatter and hitting twice with F1 Im not even sure if that is the case anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Core have better stealth and stealth is main thing when you one hit enemies. Well damage matters too. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu.9745 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I like core Mesmer Scepter/Torch + Staff for open World and PvP, maybe some WvW too. Condition dmg + stealth ... Great and very fun spec to play. Unfortunately it is not very good for team play but the best for any kind of solo stuff. Survivability is great, dmg is great and you don't have to stay in melee range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliviscaris.6937 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I'll add that whilst core does offer flexibility, it won't excel in any areas as much as elites can. And what you DO want in some cases is to excel in a specific area, because if you're a jack of all trades, you're a master of none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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