Placement System

[Nithril.9123]

I posted this in the old Forums, so I thought it would be rather heard if I posted it here ;)

Hey there,I wanted to take some short time to discuss about the current placement system in Guild Wars 2.But first to my own person:I play Guild Wars 2 for about 4 years now and I play mainly sPvP for about 2 or 3 years, so I am quite experieced in that. In the seasons 1 to 4 I had only once the time to reach Legendary and in season 5 to 7 it was the same.So I think I can say of myself that I am quite a good player (I’ll come to that one later again :P).I think to tell my placement story I should begin with season 5 first. I paused Guild Wars 2 for quite a while before playing my placements but I was quite depressed when I got placed at silver. The matches for kind of boring and I fought myself up in ranks with a 70% winrate and hit platinum in the end.In season 6 I got ranked silver again…. There I stopped at gold 3 for I had other games to play tooIn season 7 I got ranked at low platinum (about 1,500) so I was glad that I had the chance of reaching top 250 with not too many matches to play. At the end of the season I was rank 58 and at a skill rating of 1,805 (and that with a 59% winrate). To prove this I made a screenshot for you: http://puu.sh/xt9Pt/684a3cc9a5.jpgIn season 8 however I got placed at gold again. I was pretty kittened about that, as you can probably imagine, for I used to play games with the top tier players before and had fun doing so. Got 5-5 placements (http://puu.sh/xwmp5/95cc4ac74e.jpg), but I lost the first 3 matches sadly. Here’s a screenshot of my rank after the placements: http://puu.sh/xt9Pz/4486e10172.jpgSo after I climbed a whole season from low platinum to rank 58, I get placed even lower than I started the previous season? I don’t get the point of that. But I’m not only here to complain (though I have good a reason to). From my personal experience I think that ArenaNet weights the first placements over the last. So in my case after the first 5 placements it was clear that I will be placed at some lower elo. In my opinion the placements should stick more to the rating you ended the previous season, so active players are treated fairer. I think you should not be able to get placed 300 skill rating off your achievements from the previous season. It is kind of depressing to play with worse players and it’s not always fun.I would suggest that for the placements you will always get ranked within a +/- 150 skill rating range. With that the placements will be more precise for players that stick to their account and will set at least some limits to smurfing. It would be best of course if ArenaNet could be more precise about your personal MMR and rank according to that (not the amount of lost or won placement matches), but I know that this is hard to balance. I would wish that in the future the placement system will not let people drop that low as I did, so everyone can enjoy sPvP at his or her own skill level.Thank you for your attention!Josias DistlerP.S.: I was an elementalist main in sPvP last season and this season I play DPS to climb faster back to my elo (for anyone who’s interested).

[thc enjoyer.4976]

 

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[Shaogin.2679]

Coming out of placements in top 25 doesn't mean anything though. If you constantly drop down from that, then you just don't belong there.

Placement matches can feel a bit crazy, but not really sure what the best fix would be. I mean, would it just be better to start where you left off last season, or would this make it too easy for the top 250 to hold their spots?

My placement matches started off crazy this season as well. I normally stick around in Plat 2/3, but started this season in low gold 2. It was crazy seeing the difference in players between gold and platinum. It's been a rough grind but after about 40 games I'm a win away from Plat again.

Point is, yeah placements can be crazy, but maybe it is a necessary evil. I mean, not sure about everyone else but I always wind up around the same rating or sometimes even a bit higher in the end.

[thc enjoyer.4976]

 

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[Shaquille Oatmeal.2976]

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[thc enjoyer.4976]

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[Shaquille Oatmeal.2976]

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[Nithril.9123]

Thank you for your comments!@"chask.6028" I don't play gw2 sPvP for rank anymore because I have my sweet Top 100 title now and reaching Top 25 is kinda harsh. But I really miss those well coordinated matches on a high skill level. that I was able to compete in last season. It's just not the same if you have top dps with 320k on a core burst greatsword Mesmer :/ I feel like this is no place for me but I'm using this chance to improve mechanically through playing core builds (it's harder than I thought :D), because I can't change my current situation.@"Shaogin.2679" The thing is that most of the top 250 players earned their ranks and everyone else that is able to get there will get there (with enough amount of time). But if the ones who could reach top 250 are getting placed at silver/gold/low plat then they have to play more matches each season and will eventually stop on their way to top 250. So in my opinion it would be better if you can climb through seasons and don't have to climb every season again from where you started. With that you will sooner end up on a rank where you will get a 50/50 winrate after some time and be happy to stay at your elo (or not). After like 30 matches of core builds in (mostly) solo q, I'm still "rocking" a 57% winrate and I will not stabilize so soon I guess if I keep on playing.