silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Guys is that possible they concider what they did to the necromancer is a bug because they planning on give him another nerf when they nerf the rest of the specs ???Like they said . They fix the bugs where f5 gives a stack of burning and the shades attack same target which is according to what they said it was a bug Then is that possible they will nerf it Again?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Can we save the fearmongering until after we have the balance patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Crinn.7864 said:Can we save the fearmongering until after we have the balance patch?Lol they will do what ever they wants anyways.Which is "get rid of the necromancer" Somebody said before that he will not buying the PoF to play with scourge for one month then regret it after they nerf it to the bottom.I believe its you who said that in your YouTube channel but i was like arenanet just "manupAabit" so they will not nerf it a lot so im going to buy the expansion even though i was agreed with this opinion .I wish i didn't bought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I think every spec will get nerfs, some more than others but there will be buffs to classes too, you’ll just have to wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare.1234 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 the bug fixes are not a nerf it putting the elite to the standard it was intended to function at.the shade durations halfed and one skill getting a cd increase was the pvp nerf.you are now normal scourge not op scourge. you might even get some buffs to reaper spec or core necro reworks if your lucky as well in the main balance patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Mini Crinny.6190 said:I think every spec will get nerfs, some more than others but there will be buffs to classes too, you’ll just have to wait and seeYea and double nerf to the necro. And decrease 0.003 sec on the thief's stealth plus decrease in the range he can teleport to by 0.003 And yet we have a full fair balance changesAll we have to do is waiting Thats troll from Anet and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Nightmare.1234 said:the bug fixes are not a nerf it putting the elite to the standard it was intended to function at.the shade durations halfed and one skill getting a cd increase was the pvp nerf.you are now normal scourge not op scourge. you might even get some buffs to reaper spec or core necro reworks if your lucky as well in the main balance patch.Man i want to ask you since you are old player . Have you played as necromancer in pvp if soHave you played as scourge?Did you saw how hard to generate life force? You already cant use for example f5 twice in less than 20 or 30sec and you have to use your barriors in order to surviveAnd each one of shade skills coats a lot of life force so its already not like we were spamming your sand shade skillsNot to mention we used to have our death shroud for surviving and now we dont have it so they should give us something as effective as what we used to haveCd on skills that already cost our life force? Thats insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Alim.4176 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @silent killer.5732 said:@Nightmare.1234 said:the bug fixes are not a nerf it putting the elite to the standard it was intended to function at.the shade durations halfed and one skill getting a cd increase was the pvp nerf.you are now normal scourge not op scourge. you might even get some buffs to reaper spec or core necro reworks if your lucky as well in the main balance patch.Man i want to ask you since you are old player . Have you played as necromancer in pvp if soHave you played as scourge?Did you saw how hard to generate life force? You already cant use for example f5 twice in less than 20 or 30sec and you have to use your barriors in order to surviveAnd each one of shade skills coats a lot of life force so its already not like we were spamming your sand shade skillsNot to mention we used to have our death shroud for surviving and now we dont have it so they should give us something as effective as what we used to haveCd on skills that already cost our life force? Thats insane Just hop over to Spellbreaker like mos,t of the Scourge players will be doing. GG, no more need for you to QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I’m sure spellbreaker will be nerfed when the balance patch comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Reaper Alim.4176 said:@silent killer.5732 said:@Nightmare.1234 said:the bug fixes are not a nerf it putting the elite to the standard it was intended to function at.the shade durations halfed and one skill getting a cd increase was the pvp nerf.you are now normal scourge not op scourge. you might even get some buffs to reaper spec or core necro reworks if your lucky as well in the main balance patch.Man i want to ask you since you are old player . Have you played as necromancer in pvp if soHave you played as scourge?Did you saw how hard to generate life force? You already cant use for example f5 twice in less than 20 or 30sec and you have to use your barriors in order to surviveAnd each one of shade skills coats a lot of life force so its already not like we were spamming your sand shade skillsNot to mention we used to have our death shroud for surviving and now we dont have it so they should give us something as effective as what we used to haveCd on skills that already cost our life force? Thats insane Just hop over to Spellbreaker like mos,t of the Scourge players will be doing. GG, no more need for you to QQ.Hey dude did you think i created the necro to play scourge?I am necromancer since the beginning and i didn't choose to be scourgeHe chooses to be necromancer and we aren't happy with it either and we want good mobility and resistance we don't want spac that only can be played as condi You are the one who hoping from meta to meta not usNecros stock with necro in good and bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Alim.4176 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @silent killer.5732 said:@Reaper Alim.4176 said:@silent killer.5732 said:@Nightmare.1234 said:the bug fixes are not a nerf it putting the elite to the standard it was intended to function at.the shade durations halfed and one skill getting a cd increase was the pvp nerf.you are now normal scourge not op scourge. you might even get some buffs to reaper spec or core necro reworks if your lucky as well in the main balance patch.Man i want to ask you since you are old player . Have you played as necromancer in pvp if soHave you played as scourge?Did you saw how hard to generate life force? You already cant use for example f5 twice in less than 20 or 30sec and you have to use your barriors in order to surviveAnd each one of shade skills coats a lot of life force so its already not like we were spamming your sand shade skillsNot to mention we used to have our death shroud for surviving and now we dont have it so they should give us something as effective as what we used to haveCd on skills that already cost our life force? Thats insane Just hop over to Spellbreaker like mos,t of the Scourge players will be doing. GG, no more need for you to QQ.Hey dude did you think i created the necro to play scourge?I am necromancer since the beginning and i didn't choose to be scourgeHe chooses to be necromancer and we aren't happy with it either and we want good mobility and resistance we don't want spac that only can be played as condi You are the one who hoping from meta to meta not usNecros stock with necro in good and bad I was just giving you a solution to your woes. And yes for the first season ever in GW2's Ranked. I decided to adhere to the OP META class. After 100 or so matches landing in bronze. I decided to pick up the OP Scourge and less than 3 or 4 hours laters, I was sitting in gold. https://imgur.com/L3GJzNcNow that I've seen it with my own eyes. I can go back to focusing on ESO, Smite, and Eve Online. And laugh at the joke I just experienced last PvP Season. And believe me I will not pass up any opportunity to laugh or make MEMEs, about my experience with the last Season that past.Point is in this game. You either swap to what is just flatout broken OP. Or you can just cry pointlessly about spilt milk. That was/is the class you enjoy playing with. Thinking about them Rev mains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virus.4370 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 necros always get nerfed..i feel like they hate us. as soon as we start winning and getting ahead, we get nerfed..deadeye on the other hand has perm lock/inf damage in pvp..while our skills get nerfed...less damage,few targets,and shorter times attack times with longer cool downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlaworks.4937 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The OP says the same things constantly. "Oh no necro is gonna get nerfed? Even moooore? They're gonna take all my condis and give them to THIEF because anet hates necros and loves thief thief is the golden child!" Seriously, it's like 75% of your posts, dude. Scourge is OP and needs the nerfs, and Deadeye sucks unless you're running P/P or your enemy is Hellen Keller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Atlaworks.4937 said:The OP says the same things constantly. "Oh no necro is gonna get nerfed? Even moooore? They're gonna take all my condis and give them to THIEF because anet hates necros and loves thief thief is the golden child!" Seriously, it's like 75% of your posts, dude. Scourge is OP and needs the nerfs, and Deadeye sucks unless you're running P/P or your enemy is Hellen Keller.I have to speak about my caseWhy i would talk about other classes when my class is targeted by people who will never quit until the necro get killed for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlaworks.4937 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @silent killer.5732 said:@Atlaworks.4937 said:The OP says the same things constantly. "Oh no necro is gonna get nerfed? Even moooore? They're gonna take all my condis and give them to THIEF because anet hates necros and loves thief thief is the golden child!" Seriously, it's like 75% of your posts, dude. Scourge is OP and needs the nerfs, and Deadeye sucks unless you're running P/P or your enemy is Hellen Keller.I have to speak about my caseWhy i would talk about other classes when my class is targeted by people who will never quit until the necro get killed for real? You seem to talk about thief plenty, and that's not your class. Granted, all your words regarding it are slanted jargon about it somehow ruining the game. The point is, when you only speak from your personal perspective, you are going to be fundamentally bias by default. And you have taken that to several new, vivid levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent killer.5732 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Atlaworks.4937 said:@silent killer.5732 said:@Atlaworks.4937 said:The OP says the same things constantly. "Oh no necro is gonna get nerfed? Even moooore? They're gonna take all my condis and give them to THIEF because anet hates necros and loves thief thief is the golden child!" Seriously, it's like 75% of your posts, dude. Scourge is OP and needs the nerfs, and Deadeye sucks unless you're running P/P or your enemy is Hellen Keller.I have to speak about my caseWhy i would talk about other classes when my class is targeted by people who will never quit until the necro get killed for real? You seem to talk about thief plenty, and that's not your class. Granted, all your words regarding it are slanted jargon about it somehow ruining the game. The point is, when you only speak from your personal perspective, you are going to be fundamentally bias by default. And you have taken that to several new, vivid levels.I talk about thief because its the all time op but people only want the scourge to be nerfedWith that being saidSpeaking about thief is related subject to the necromancer ima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I actually started to pick up DE as I didnt want to be able to just play Scourge. Also picked up Mirage. Haven't gotten Weaver/Spell Breaker or renegade yet (I have little interest in these 3 but will get them eventually)You would be surprised on how often I can rifle someone down and them not be Helen Keller. Its all in timing/baiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I talk about thief because its the all time op but people only want the scourge to be nerfedWith that being saidSpeaking about thief is related subject to the necromancer ima I wish all my enemies with thief were like you :DAtm only thing thief can do is decap or spam unload and die to all those reflects :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 @sokeenoppa.5384 said:I talk about thief because its the all time op but people only want the scourge to be nerfedWith that being saidSpeaking about thief is related subject to the necromancer ima I wish all my enemies with thief were like you :DAtm only thing thief can do is decap or spam unload and die to all those reflects :Dplay ranger they have 10sec of unblocables will bypass even wall of reflection. and guardian domes... since it looks ANet trats everything as a normal block with side effects....IMO the class that needs huge nerf is Spambrand, scourges are fine but way to deadly for my mace shield guardian since shout guardian has no escapes they might be bit to overtuned that nullifyes any melee interaction.Still ive not yet fough a scourge alonee aftert patch, since the one ive found are stacked with other condi bursters.The new unblocables traits from ther new ranger is a bit OP for a gimmick.. 10sec+ 1500 range unbloacbles... its to much, ANET should change for the next 2 or 3 skills every X seconds are unblokcables, some 30 sec ICD would be fine, ATM ranger for ranger class as to much easy mode damage....The major issue that ANet looks like they are avoiding to fix, is how easy is to condi burst continually no stop some classes can do it, but when stacked it become to strong against defenses...and condi cleanses..THis should be the priority that ANET should be doing.... its way easier to burst with condi, and the game is all about stack cleaves and AOE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garkos.2973 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Minion Master is the only real way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplethoraof.2643 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 If this were the case, reaper would be pretty bad. It isn't. Its actually pretty good.They had to fix the bugs BEFORE the balance patch. You can't balance a class while it still had bugs that would defy balance. First they fix the bugs, then they look at the class and say "hmm, what does it need". If they did it in the reverse order, then the balance would be skewed by the bugs that they would then fix, which would have unforeseen consequences. Logic 101, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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