forevergamer.7653 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 So anet.. I been doing map completion for 3 weeks while lving my chars and so far I only got one key and that was more than a week ago.. I would like to know if you guys removed it cuz I've done around 10 maps completion around one week and 0 keys found. Did you guys removed it or lowered the drop rate? and I mean really LOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 It's random. I went on a streak a while back where I thought they must have increased the drop %. But no, luck since then has been about normal.My daughter has remarkable luck with keys/map completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephire.8049 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The chance for keys is still the same at 25% per map (with the exception of Southsun and cities) so you just hit a streak of bad RNG. I've found keeping a spreadsheet of whether I get a key or charge has helped lessen the disappointment of not getting a key for several maps since with the exception of a handful of characters, most of my (recorded) map comps sit at 4-6 keys total which puts them in the 25% zone. Streaks of bad luck are just more memorable than streaks of good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfb.7025 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Its merely luck, to be fair.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_completion/Drop_RateThis link is interesting, although the final data is not really accurate. But you can see how there are really unlucky players that get 6 keys out of 51 maps, and really lucky ones that get 19 out of 54 maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 @forevergamer.7653 said:So anet.. I been doing map completion for 3 weeks while lving my chars and so far I only got one key and that was more than a week ago.. I would like to know if you guys removed it cuz I've done around 10 maps completion around one week and 0 keys found. Did you guys removed it or lowered the drop rate? and I mean really LOW.It's random and you disprove validity of your own question from the title by saying you got a key recently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scerevisiae.1972 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 BL chest drops are garbage anyway.you'd have to be crazy to spend money on keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilora.9524 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Another rng victim. Of course that time we beat the odds with 3 in a row from map complete never results in did they increase bl key threads only when one goes on a bad streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevergamer.7653 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 @Sobx.1758 said:@forevergamer.7653 said:So anet.. I been doing map completion for 3 weeks while lving my chars and so far I only got one key and that was more than a week ago.. I would like to know if you guys removed it cuz I've done around 10 maps completion around one week and 0 keys found. Did you guys removed it or lowered the drop rate? and I mean really LOW.It's random and you disprove validity of your own question from the title by saying you got a key recently. I got one key 2 weeks ago and since then no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I got 1 last week if that helps. But I do find it increasingly rare to get one and have put it down to 2020ism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 @forevergamer.7653 said:So anet.. I been doing map completion for 3 weeks while lving my chars and so far I only got one key and that was more than a week ago.. I would like to know if you guys removed it cuz I've done around 10 maps completion around one week and 0 keys found. Did you guys removed it or lowered the drop rate? and I mean really LOW.Says he got a key a week agothrows shade for removing the keys.ggwp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 @"Wolfb.7025" said:Its merely luck, to be fair.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_completion/Drop_RateThis link is interesting, although the final data is not really accurate. But you can see how there are really unlucky players that get 6 keys out of 51 maps, and really lucky ones that get 19 out of 54 maps.I guess it's pure luck too that suddenly many got unlucky lately. For years, every month I will buy 5-15 blc keys to try my luck when I see something I like in the BLC chests. And for years, I will get at least 1 uncommon drop out of every 5 keys I used, and even if the first 5 keys I got none, the next 5 will give me 1 to 2 uncommon drops. It's liked guaranteed. When the Vermillion Chair is out, I bought 20 keys, and i get nothing good, not even 1 uncommon drop. That never happened before. Guess you could argue that only now i got my bad luck? Ya, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Started a new toon this weekend. Finished Queensdale, Hrathi Hinterlands and Wayfarer Foothills. Got two keys. Of course, got junk from the chests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archmagus.7249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I think it's random, depends on the map, and has a cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 @forevergamer.7653 said:@Sobx.1758 said:@forevergamer.7653 said:So anet.. I been doing map completion for 3 weeks while lving my chars and so far I only got one key and that was more than a week ago.. I would like to know if you guys removed it cuz I've done around 10 maps completion around one week and 0 keys found. Did you guys removed it or lowered the drop rate? and I mean really LOW.It's random and you disprove validity of your own question from the title by saying you got a key recently. I got one key 2 weeks ago and since then no more.Right ... it's random ... no issue ... /thread.@Mil.3562 said:@"Wolfb.7025" said:Its merely luck, to be fair.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_completion/Drop_RateThis link is interesting, although the final data is not really accurate. But you can see how there are really unlucky players that get 6 keys out of 51 maps, and really lucky ones that get 19 out of 54 maps.I guess it's pure luck too that suddenly many got unlucky lately. Yes, that is correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 a mere 10 map completes proves nothing. You cant use that sample size for anything. You will begin to have worthwhile data at 1000+ completes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only Even.6193 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 After 100+ map completions I can assume that you'll get 6 to 7 key per Tyria completion, I never got more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzarakiel.7490 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Lucky you. I remember how i did map completion a few years back for transmutation charges before statuettes was a thing and got more worthless keys than charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fear.3865 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Depends, every maps does not have the same blk droprate, I already make 8 keys on 10 maps completion.Lvl80 map drops more, especially bloodstone fen, dry top, silverwastes, orr maps, grothmar, dragonfall for example, and pretty fast to clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Its only about a 27.9% drop chance (a bit less than one-third), so you'll only get a key about once every 3-4 maps, and even then its subject to probability, so in reality it'll be either lower or higher, depending on luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 last 2 weeks - 0 keys, 10-11 maps in chill mode for fun, good that key was not target :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury ranique.2170 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I did 10 maps the other week and had 5 keys. That is the way luck works. Also remember that towns do not reward keysA common mistake is that people expect that with a dropchance of 25% you are bound to have 2-3 keys when doing 10 maps. This is not how it works and is only true for averages of the bigger number. Cause the higher the number, the smaller chance there is the amount of keys deviate from chance. But the essence is that anytime you complete a map you have a 25% chance to get a key and 75% of not getting a key. This is a constant. So not getting a key the first time, doesnt change this chance the second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon.6308 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 @"scerevisiae.1972" said:BL chest drops are garbage anyway.you'd have to be crazy to spend money on keys.Yeah, you'd also be crazy to spend hours on map completion for "a chance" to get one useless key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The drop rate for BL keys from map completion is estimated to be between 25% and 33%. With those odds, the chances of the OP getting 0 keys from 10 maps are respectively 5.6% to 1.8%.In other words, bad luck.If you take into account the 11th map noted by the OP (1 key in 11), then the odds change to between1.9% & 7.8%, also "bad" but not surprising.Keep in mind that someone is going to have bad luck and someone is going to have extraordinarily worse luck. And sometimes, that someone is you (or me). Also remember that time has nothing to do with this. It's all about how many times you roll the dice, not about how long you've been rolling. If you complete 20 maps in 5 weeks or 20 maps in 20 weeks, the odds are the same.I did 10 maps the other week and had 5 keys.Using the same 25-33% chances, the odds of getting 5+ keys are 7.8%-20.6%. That's good luck, but not unusually good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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